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goosegagnon2
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Ghost...dude I'm sorry, but I like the 99 cent value meal at Mcdonald's wayyy to much to die in a sand box, and you should too! I would like to see how much you do not fear death, this "war" is not like Ghost Recon or Halo 2. Jus because 50 cent got shot 8 times and survived doesn't mean he wasn't afraid either. Everyone is afraid of death, so quit talking out your fourth point of contact.
I respect that, but I find your view hard to believe.
I respect that, but I find your view hard to believe.
BrandonJ1780
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Ghost, you got to chill hombre. Alot of this fire you're bringing on yourself is from those who have BTDT, or who are alot closer to being there, doing that, than both you or I...I once had my own brief fit of AW insanity; ran the steak knife across the fingers so I couldn't type for a good long while, and now I'm myself again...Try it. Not the knife part, but preach at your wall for a few days, take a breather, and come back on when you're ready to learn. Best wishes to you.
Ghost, you got to chill hombre. Alot of this fire you're bringing on yourself is from those who have BTDT, or who are alot closer to being there, doing that, than both you or I...I once had my own brief fit of AW insanity; ran the steak knife across the fingers so I couldn't type for a good long while, and now I'm myself again...Try it. Not the knife part, but preach at your wall for a few days, take a breather, and come back on when you're ready to learn. Best wishes to you.
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As others one this forum would say - solid advice grasshopper
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As others one this forum would say - solid advice grasshopper
ghost119 said:
Dude, like everyone else, take a bit of a chill. Everyone is afraid to die. I'm afraid to die, I've been close to it a couple times and I haven't even been shot at yet. Leave the bravado at home, because there ARE guys on here who HAVE been shot at, or even worse, shot.
goosegagnon2 said:
Haha, if you're ever frightened, just take a deep breath and think, "what would Fiddy Cent do?" (or Bryan Boitano)
As far as the pain comment, I think the memory of the pain is inconsequential. It's all about how much it sucks at the moment.
On a side note, I see some people refuse to capitalize Sailor. I could have have sworn I saw/heard of a CNO instruction that "Sailor" is to be capitalized. However, I have seen it spelled lower case in official documents. Am I making this up, or has this just not caught on yet?
goosegagnon2
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I just heard the story of how he got shot though, once through the jaw?!? wtf. Anyways fill me in on the story of how he got his name....
goosegagnon2 said:
Long story short, in the 70s there was a gangster (not Sopranos style, Crips style) in New York that would terorize parts of the city with his gang. His name was 50 cent. He would kill people for as little as mugging them for 2 dollars. He was brutal and a piece of sh!t. He was finally gunned down by one of his enemies, thankfully. 50 cent, the rapper, picked his name to HONOR the gangster and continue his legacy as a "bad a@@".
No, I never really wanted to be in the "military". I wanted to be a lawyer!
Thankfully, the Navy recruiters knocked some sense into me a long time ago, and chose a much better career for me. Since then, I have benefited, the Navy has benefited, and I trust, our Country has also benefited.
Regarding combat, heroics, dying, honor, being scared, old war movies, or whatever, etc, I have some perspective.
I remember the 30 totally different emotions and expectations, fears, and concerns as our squadron transited for 2 weeks, the Pacific toward a hostile war that would likely cause us losses. Emotions ran the full gamut of almost John Wayne types, to seriously nervous nellies, medal seekers, to desperate my-luck-must-run-out-eventually types, and everything in between.
I remember our 1st major Alpha Strike briefing; our Strike Lead admonishing us that this was "not the war to be a hero in. Just do your job, and no more. No heroics." Unfortunately, we still lost one A-7 pilot that day.
In the end, 11 months later, all of us had done our jobs, under heavy and repeated fire, as we had been trained. Regardless of individual apprehensions, we all respected and protected each other. And we all did it exceptionally well, with minimal losses – regardless of our 30 different prior reservations, or different emotions and personalities, and actual responses about flying in real combat.
I know just a little about honor, courage, fear, and close ones' dying. But I also know a lot about doing the job you have signed on to do, doing it well, and as you have been trained - overcoming personal obstacles, and protecting your fellow warrior.
From the weakest to the strongest, all our guys rose to the occasion, as one proud and successful unit!
Nevertheless, you never know until you've been there, and even then, you still can't really be sure, how you feel. But feelings aside, you still act, and act well. And the air war is the "gentleman's war." Think about how worse it could be on the ground.
Today, all I ask now, when I die the so many years later that I have been fortunately granted of old age, that our Flag covers my coffin. [Civilian lawyers get no such flags. Maybe that is my happy epitaph!]
Thankfully, the Navy recruiters knocked some sense into me a long time ago, and chose a much better career for me. Since then, I have benefited, the Navy has benefited, and I trust, our Country has also benefited.
Regarding combat, heroics, dying, honor, being scared, old war movies, or whatever, etc, I have some perspective.
I remember the 30 totally different emotions and expectations, fears, and concerns as our squadron transited for 2 weeks, the Pacific toward a hostile war that would likely cause us losses. Emotions ran the full gamut of almost John Wayne types, to seriously nervous nellies, medal seekers, to desperate my-luck-must-run-out-eventually types, and everything in between.
I remember our 1st major Alpha Strike briefing; our Strike Lead admonishing us that this was "not the war to be a hero in. Just do your job, and no more. No heroics." Unfortunately, we still lost one A-7 pilot that day.
In the end, 11 months later, all of us had done our jobs, under heavy and repeated fire, as we had been trained. Regardless of individual apprehensions, we all respected and protected each other. And we all did it exceptionally well, with minimal losses – regardless of our 30 different prior reservations, or different emotions and personalities, and actual responses about flying in real combat.
I know just a little about honor, courage, fear, and close ones' dying. But I also know a lot about doing the job you have signed on to do, doing it well, and as you have been trained - overcoming personal obstacles, and protecting your fellow warrior.
From the weakest to the strongest, all our guys rose to the occasion, as one proud and successful unit!
Nevertheless, you never know until you've been there, and even then, you still can't really be sure, how you feel. But feelings aside, you still act, and act well. And the air war is the "gentleman's war." Think about how worse it could be on the ground.
Today, all I ask now, when I die the so many years later that I have been fortunately granted of old age, that our Flag covers my coffin. [Civilian lawyers get no such flags. Maybe that is my happy epitaph!]
Catmando said:
Thank you for your insight, sir. It's truly something special to be able to sit here and learn from the guys who have been there, done that, and gotten the t-shirt.
Perhaps we can also get A4s to weigh in on this? Calling A4sForever, come in A4sForever. . . . .
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