JTAC training also occurs at Fallon and takes advantage of having both visiting Air Wings and resident aircraft and aircrews experienced enough to work with students.
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Why does the Marine Corps have its own "Air Force"?
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JTAC training also occurs at Fallon and takes advantage of having both visiting Air Wings and resident aircraft and aircrews experienced enough to work with students.
Harrier Dude
Living the dream
This is a bad idea. Sounds good, but in reality .......not so much. It's not so much a risk/danger issue as it is a quality training issue and a lessened ability to get the X on both sides. FACs need controls to get qualified/ current. Aborts only count so much. Pilots need quality 9-lines and enough runs/drops to complete the sortie. This scenario sounds like a 1.5 that gets 2 controls at best, and at least 1 will be an abort or otherwise AFU. At least one side of the equation needs to be competant.
This would be like having SNAs and SNFOs flying together to double up the Xs. The blind leading the blind.
This would be like having SNAs and SNFOs flying together to double up the Xs. The blind leading the blind.
The example in the article was CAS only, no combined arms. That was actually one of the negatives. But, I see what you are saying about negative training for both when it gets screwed up.
Balls77
New Member
To whom can I attribute this quote...Marines hate it.
Navy pilots have for years giggled over a quote that no Marine pilot cares for much. It's loosely attributed to Gorbachev but I've never been able to nail it down. Does anyone know who said it and the exact text?
"I understand why your Navy has an air force and I understand why your Navy has an army. But what I don't understand is why your Navy's army has an air force."
Anyone?
Navy pilots have for years giggled over a quote that no Marine pilot cares for much. It's loosely attributed to Gorbachev but I've never been able to nail it down. Does anyone know who said it and the exact text?
"I understand why your Navy has an air force and I understand why your Navy has an army. But what I don't understand is why your Navy's army has an air force."
Anyone?
Great thread, looks like you will do really well here.
they only giggle if you tickle their belly
F'in Commies.
Yep, things worked out really well for them so who cares what their leader might have said about the only super power left standing?
Clux4
Banned
I am actually curious. Was it Gorbachev, Sikorsky or some dead commie general?
slug
Member
Pretty sure that if you ask any Soldier who provides the best CAS support, they will say Army Aviation, and if you ask any Marine the same question, they will answer Marine Aviation. You get the best results from units with which you have a habitiual working relationship.
Brings up a good question, though. What is the difference between a Navy and a Marine F/A-18 and why do we need both? The Air Force doesn't allow the Army to have A-10s, so why aren't the Marines limited to helos and jump jets?
phrogpilot73
Well-Known Member
Fixed it for you. The Army doesn't really do a whole lot of play with CAS.
As for the difference between the two? Mindset and focus of training.
slug
Member
So, Marines do CAS but the Army doesn't? Um, since you were probably never in the Army, have you ever seen We Were Soldiers or Blackhawk Down? I remember a little CAS being called in by those Soldiers.
The question still stands, why can't the Navy provide CAS support for Marines with their F/A-18s?