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When did the Helo Committment change from 6 to 8 years?
- Thread starter ben4prez
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I commissioned the YG after Pags, and was in Primary during the same timeframe. My initial orders out of ROTC show an 8 year commitment on both, and I was in zone on the CY12 and 13 boards. Looked in the NAVADMIN/ALNAV libraries for the early 2000's up to '03 and could see anything there. Maybe it got purged when they scrubbed those for PII.
Perfect, thanks. That's just the answer I was looking for. Do you know if it was just helo guys that went from 7 to 8? Was it VP as well?
Everyone, regardless of your winging commitment, gets 8 year commitment orders, even SWOs. He's asking about Winging commitment/orders.
Yes, everyone went to Wings +8 (for Navy SNAs).
Yes, but the standard 8 year active/reserve commitment is not what's addressed in my orders. My initial post-ROTC orders explicitly state a winging commitment of Wings+8 for both rotary and fixed wing in the text. As opposed to Pags's, which apparently don't. So sometime between his 2002 date and my summer 2003 date is where the documentation will lie, wherever it is.
Ahh, gotcha. Mine delineated the two (and maybe yours did too). It said 8 years and then said Wings +7.
Either way, I know that while there's going to be some PG stragglers and short bus medical holds (like me), the YG 02 guys were the ones that had it changed on them.
Either way, I know that while there's going to be some PG stragglers and short bus medical holds (like me), the YG 02 guys were the ones that had it changed on them.
Because with any kind of delay in the RAG guys could get out immediately after their shore tour without doing a disassociated.
What you are seeing now is, in my opinion, an unintended consequence of that policy. You have guys sticking around longer because they are out of options. It is tough to get any job, and especially a flying job, coming off a 2 year disassociated gig. Dudes used to be able to roll from shore duty to civ life, not anymore. The Navy wanted more bang for their buck and they got it. Now they get to decide who stays and who goes, not the other way around. I know it isn't that simple, but I honestly believe that is the crux of it.
Appreciate the clarification -- I guess my question was more in line with this:
Which aviation communities had a Wings +8 committment before FY02 and which communities had Wings +7? I know Tailhook (E/C-2/VFA/VAQ) was 8, and helos were 7, but was VP 7 or 8? Was TACAMO 7 or 8?
VP and TACAMO were both 7. That is a fact.
I thought (maybe just my senior citizen memory) that E-2 and COD were also 7 back in the day day. It was only a few years ago that they combined them into "Tailhook" from VT selection. I thought it was just Strike (J1/J2) that incurred the 8 years of fun. Surely someone here can clarify that, though.
I thought (maybe just my senior citizen memory) that E-2 and COD were also 7 back in the day day. It was only a few years ago that they combined them into "Tailhook" from VT selection. I thought it was just Strike (J1/J2) that incurred the 8 years of fun. Surely someone here can clarify that, though.