VANCE - Facts about Primary?

[Jim123]

The Vance pattern wasn't rocket surgery...

In the big scheme of things it doesn't sound much harder to wrap your brain around than CV, LHA/LHD, or "air capable ship" patterns, go figure... and when you take the Navy Primary pattern and add the delta pattern (which you might actually do), PPEL(P), all the other alphabet soup, Whiting split field ops, then it's not exactly simple either.

I realize all that is small consolation to the stud pulling his hair out trying to memorize that stuff, but like you said it's really not rocket surgery.

 

[Gatordev]

In the big scheme of things it doesn't sound much harder to wrap your brain around than CV, LHA/LHD, or "air capable ship" patterns, go figure... and when you take the Navy Primary pattern and add the delta pattern (which you might actually do), PPEL(P), all the other alphabet soup, Whiting split field ops, then it's not exactly simple either.

I realize all that is small consolation to the stud pulling his hair out trying to memorize that stuff, but like you said it's really not rocket surgery.

That's kind of what I was thinking. Add to that the zoo that is entering and flying the OLF patterns with 7 other of your closest T-34 friends on a hazy summer day while farmer Bill decides to light half of lower AL on fire. I hated being LSO on those days. You pretty much had to rely on the aircraft to clear themselves (which they can't always do) and/or kick people out of the pattern.

 

[torpedo0126]

60˚, 2Gs all the way down to final.

Probably good for Primary studs. Most of my studs could barely handle the 30 degree, 1g break anyway.

When I reread my post I realized it was a little misleading. Its 60˚ from the break to the final turn. Then 30˚ (45˚ if needed) for final turn to final.

 

[scoolbubba]

Yeah, I fucked away a break or two (or three)...usually roll to 60, pull power, flash the boards if I was carrying a little smash, climb a hundred feet, get slow, add power, drop the nose, roll out (wide) crab in, sneak below 150 to drop flaps/gear, hit the 180 (what the AF calls the "Perch") about 1/2 mile late...low/drug-in/angling final...touch down long, but firm, and (once) blow a tire trying to make the early taxiway...all in a days work as a nugget!
Pickle

Oh, and lose a case of beer and a class patch or two getting the tire.

That was you I got all those extends called for? Rolling off the perch over Waukomis? Jackass.

 

[scoolbubba]

60˚, 2Gs all the way down to final.

Laaaaame. Your IPs will be really impressed if you can pull off the shortfield over the numbers. Wrap it up to 89.9999, put your feet on the dash and pull the airspeed off. They love that.

 

[Godspeed]

Laaaaame. Your IPs will be really impressed if you can pull off the shortfield over the numbers. Wrap it up to 89.9999, put your feet on the dash and pull the airspeed off. They love that.

Oh yeah... Watch out though when you get back... You might be BLUE TAGGED! OOOOhh how scary.

You know what really pissed me off?... The recording of 'IRTs'... Effing stupid.

 

[Godspeed]

Actually reminds me of when I tried to land with the speed brake extended (on a no flap).... I thought hell hath frozen over.

 

[bunk22]

When I reread my post I realized it was a little misleading. Its 60˚ from the break to the final turn. Then 30˚ (45˚ if needed) for final turn to final.

I got what you were saying. No more than 2g in the break, 60 degrees AOB.