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Twin Engineplane goes down in gulf of mexico...

BusyBee604

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Sounds a bit like the Pro Golfer Payne Stewart's fatal flight a few years ago.

Also remember a Greek airliner wandering around for hours in autopilot in the Athens vicinity until fuel exhaustion, then crashing. A military jet sent up to investigate, flew close formation. Unable to establish radio contact, reported the crew slumped over in cockpit.

Conclusion both incidents above - hypoxia. This is in no way, speculating on today's incident.
BzB
 

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Sounds a bit like the Pro Golfer Payne Stewart's fatal flight a few years ago.

Also remember a Greek airliner wandering around for hours in autopilot in the Athens vicinity until fuel exhaustion, then crashing. A military jet sent up to investigate, flew close formation. Unable to establish radio contact, reported the crew slumped over in cockpit.

Conclusion both incidents above - hypoxia. This is in no way, speculating on today's incident.
BzB
This one should never have happened. On the 737 the takeoff configuration horn (ground only) and the cabin altitude (air only) horn sound the same. These idiots both spoke different languages with broken, all most non-existent English as a common second language. They spent a long time arguing and trying to figure out why the config horn was blowing in the air and totally ignored the FA on a portable O2 bottle banging on the cabin door. The eventually passed out from hypoxia and the plane crashed when it ran out of gas.

This is one of the reasons why all pilots flying international now have to have an "English Proficient" endorsement on their license. Not that the the English of many foreign pilots is actually improved but hey, ICAO did something so they are claiming it as a victory.
 
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