Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo ... who "won" ... what do you "think" ... ???
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The DEBATE: Round 2
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23 hours and 41 minutes to go yet....
edit: McCain had better come out like the pugilistic pit bull....and follow up on Billy Ayers and Jeremiah. This is a risky strategy though...it smacks of desperation. If JMac had been on Barry like he beat up on Romney.... he'd be in a lot better shape.
edit: McCain had better come out like the pugilistic pit bull....and follow up on Billy Ayers and Jeremiah. This is a risky strategy though...it smacks of desperation. If JMac had been on Barry like he beat up on Romney.... he'd be in a lot better shape.
Well, I'll be damned ... I didn't know that ...
... and any/all "votes" prior to the debate WILL be "zeroed" ... but please, feel free to discuss in the interim .... :sleep_125
No shit, sailor ... and as he was "one" in the Academy and the NAV ... I hope he "rediscovers" his ATTACK Pilot spirit ... at least this time ...
Finally, somethign we agree on! With a month to go and down in the polls, he doesn't seem to have much of a choice.
abracadabra11
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I despise the idea that attempting to smear another candidate is acceptable. That's probably why I hate politics altogether. I don't know if such tactics serve a functional purpose on the electorate as a whole, but I sure as hell know that it only serves to distance me.
Win with honor; lose with dignity. Neither applies in politics.
Campbell Brown made a solid point in her commentary on cnn. I'm paraphrasing, but her take was whoever wins will have work to do, and the Dems may not have a filibuster proof majority. Getting both sides of the aisle to work well enough is way more difficult when everyone is pissed off and covered in mud after an election.
We had a do-nothing congress for the past two years; I'd rather they earn their paychecks for the next two.
This campaign turned nastier than 2004's in the past two days, and I didn't think that was possible. It embarrasses our nation when two people who should be the biggest class acts on tv drag each other through the mud without even speaking intelligibly about things that matter.
We had a do-nothing congress for the past two years; I'd rather they earn their paychecks for the next two.
This campaign turned nastier than 2004's in the past two days, and I didn't think that was possible. It embarrasses our nation when two people who should be the biggest class acts on tv drag each other through the mud without even speaking intelligibly about things that matter.
I don't see questioning a persons past associations as "smear" tactics...Sen. Obama was associated with an admitted terrorist (Ayers), Tony Rezco, and wingnut Wright, and now he wants to be POTUS, I see that as an issue. Sen. McCain is billing himself as a reformer, who is working against corruption, yet he was involved in the S&L scandal..granted he was exonerated, but it will still be brought up by the Sen. Obama campaign (as well as ABC/CBS/MSNBCrap) it is a legitimate point to be debated. A smear tactic is using LIES to denegrate your opponent (photoshopped pictures of Gov. Palin in a bikini, Sen. Reid claiming Sen. McCain was responsible for the original House Bailout Bill not passing, half of the things Sen. Biden said in the debate, you know, crap like that)
Where I think Sen. McCain needs to bring the heat is on the fact that he tried to legislate a solution to the Fannie Mae/ F. Mac problem back in '03, and was shot down by Democrats...
I have a feeling this election is slowly sliding from the GOP and will need either an October surprise like we haven't seen or a serious change in tactics from the Sen. McCain campaign...
Where I think Sen. McCain needs to bring the heat is on the fact that he tried to legislate a solution to the Fannie Mae/ F. Mac problem back in '03, and was shot down by Democrats...
I have a feeling this election is slowly sliding from the GOP and will need either an October surprise like we haven't seen or a serious change in tactics from the Sen. McCain campaign...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/08/22/mf.campaign.slurs.slogans/index.html
It has been historically acceptable back to the early days of this nation and it goes with the territory. Those that can't suck it up and deal with it shouldn't run.
I just zeroed out the poll for the third time.
The next SOB that votes prior to tomorrow nights debate will get 133 points of negative rep ...
Believe it.
The next SOB that votes prior to tomorrow nights debate will get 133 points of negative rep ...
Believe it.
I thought that was just some horny dude with nothing better to do with their time, which constitutes about 99.9% of dudes on the internets.
What legislation? I would like to see some info on it.
Had my year wrong...2005
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s109-190
Sen. McCain was one of 3 cosponsors...
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Thanks for the info, but that is kind of a weak argument for a bill that he signed on as a co-sponsor a full year and a half after it came to the floor.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/record.xpd?id=109-s20060525-16&bill=s109-190
And never passed a Republican controlled Senate or House. Guess he didn't try hard enough.
An interesting American Enterprise Institute analysis of the House counterpart bill:
http://www.aei.org/publications/pubID.22705/pub_detail.asp
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