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Tell me it aint true... a two-ship formation Euro Fighter tops 8 F-15
- Thread starter chefmike
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Not to call BS or anything...but this is from the Eurofighter website and any article that ends with "trump that" has gotta be less than reputable.
Also, F-15 first flight (1972-ish) and Eurofighter first flight (early-mid 90s). If they're just now designing an a/c that beat the Eagle then I'd say they're a little behind the curve.
Also, F-15 first flight (1972-ish) and Eurofighter first flight (early-mid 90s). If they're just now designing an a/c that beat the Eagle then I'd say they're a little behind the curve.
Please...
It's like that picture of the T-38 HUD with the Raptor sighted in for the guns kill.
The scenarios behind the cute story tell way more than the hype. . .
The scenarios behind the cute story tell way more than the hype. . .
I thought that one was supposed to be a Growler (?)
Has the USAF tested a Block 60 F-16 w/ an AESA radar against the F-15, Typhoon & Eastern Block fighters? I notice that our AF is refusing to buy more F-16s, but you'd think they at least would have the brains to maximize what they've already got.
Yeh, pretty sure that was an 18 of some kind killing the 22.
F/A-18F (former Tomcat driver with pipper on, in range and hammer down) vs Raptor. Trump that....
There is also a video of an AT-38 gunning a Holloman Raptor out there on the interwebz.
F/A-18F (former Tomcat driver with pipper on, in range and hammer down) vs Raptor. Trump that....
Looks to me like there is an "X" over "GUN" and a zero below it...does that mean the gun is empty?
Now THAT's what I used to say, too ...
"(B)eagle" (sic) drivers from Air Force FWS @ Red Flag used to TRY to call 18 mile look-down "kills" on a maneuvering A-4 (us -- the NAS Dallas "Rangers") against max+ ground clutter --- there just ain't no way, not back "in the day". And they ALWAYS got "disallowed" by the judges.
The (B)eagles (sic) never quite lived up to their billing in ACM/DCM out of Nellis/Tyndall -- make no mistake, they were good -- just not as "good" as they thought they were. And absent a GCI assist to support them (mebbe AWACS today?), we frequently humbled 'em. If we broke the ROE and actually acted like the "bad guys", we frequently hammered 'em. All the while humming somethin' to the tune of: " Old airframes, older bodies, keen eyes and better tactics "??
Make no mistake: one of their biggest problems WAS a lack of what I'd call 'sound tactics' ... not a lack of stick & throttle skills nor a good mount to ride ... but it's hard to 'win' when you come in 4-abreast, heads in the scope, and think you're going to fill the sky w/missiles -- thus killing everyone. Everyone doesn't play by the same rules ...
When we would beat an AF FWS jock soundly, i.e. 'gunned one of 'em' ... a hardcore 'in the saddle guns-kill' --- they were pre-directed by their CO to come back into Nellis, single plane, straight-in, with their "hook" down .... as in "dragging your tail behind you ...." :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol: :grumpy_12 ... the 'guilty party' never heard the end of it at the O'Club ... or so I'm told.
When (B)eagle drivers looked over their shoulders and saw this ... the next thing they heard on tactical was: "GUNS KILL" ..... "I'm COMIN' OFF ON YOUR RIGHT SIDE" ...
Trump that ...
In the link in the original post, I suspect -- considering the source -- that the deck was stacked against the F-15's from the get-go ???
" Major Juan Balesta, the 41-year old Commander of the 111 Squadron ... stressed ... the F-15s enjoyed full control of the engagement..."
"Full Control" can mean a lot of things to a lot of people. I obviously wasn't there, but somehow, 'Comandante-Major Juan', having trained some muy machismooooo-latinos ... I have doubts.
A4's is that picture of the A4 from the painting "Triple Threat"? Not positive on the name, but it's three Marine A4's coming out of clouds.
