Marine Prowlers don't go to the boat anymore, but the Cat I pilots still CQ at the RAG.
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Stupid questions about Naval Aviation (Pt 2)
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ACTUALLY .... It was a frequent & regular occurrence in the T-34B syllabus @ VT-1 ... as for every PPEL and many other "emergencies" you had to open the canopy as part of the procedure ... in point of fact, you could (and we occasionally did) take off w/ the front canopy open & locked. If I remember correctly, the normal take-off procedure called for either open or closed (and locked in both cases) for take-off. Most gear emergency practice procedures also included opening the canopy airborne to facilitate ground escape.
There was actually a NAVAIRTRACOM "correct" way to do it. You'd start w/ the canopy unlock lever, use both hands (trim, trim, TRIM) to get the canopy to about your 9-3 o'clock line (shoulders) ... and then slam it open "smartly" w/ your elbows ... OUCH!!! You could tell who was around halfway through the program by looking at the bruises on the back of their arms when in a trop khaki shirt or T-shirt.
One of STUD-solo pleasures was flying around w/ the canopy open -- very WW2-ish.
I seem to remember the BAILOUT and DITCHING procedures both "omitted" the "CANOPY OPEN" little detail in the respective procedure ...
The T-28 carqual'ed w/ the canopy open.
The A-6 RAG FAM syllabus included a canopy opening/fly around/close it item on one hop amongst the other required completion items. Later on, I remember at least one guy opening the canopy in the landing pattern to check an unsafe gear -- a bad idea as it turned out when the chin strap nearly decapitated him. Some other guys "lost" their canopies in flight -- instant OJT for flying around sans-canopy.
When rigging Rooskie ships and we weren't going to "thump" them , we frequently opened the canopy and flew by low and slow w/ the canopy open ... so as to extend our greeting and give the Hawaiian "good luck" sign ...
I had heard that rumor as well, but I think it was just that: a rumor. Of course I last flew about 6 FLIP updates and a NATOPS change ago . . . :icon_tong
The Marines traded getting a CAG spot for the MAG-12 CO billet in Iwakuni, which is now held by a Navy O-6. As soon as the Marines are out of the CVW business, that will all go back to normal - as it should.
Brett
One of STUD-solo pleasures was flying around w/ the canopy open -- very WW2-ish.
Was still a fun thing to do when I was there too, especially when doing aerobatics.
ditto.
Otto said:
You guys have a weird sense of "fun." Blasting around w/ 200+ knots of engine exhaust never really did it for me.
I remember getting the standard pre-FAM-checkride open-the-canopy-crank-down-the-gear PEL when I went through T-34s. I was close aboard an OLF when I got it. This meant I had to slip like hell, with the canopy open, to get on profile. I think I took a week off my life with the amount of jet exhaust I inhaled . . . :icon_tong
No "fun" ???
It's easy -- you just gotta have some "romance" in your soul ...
Try this:
Those have the exhaust stacks positioned so you don't have to inhale it.
Same-o, same-o .... you guys just need to get more user-friendly birds ...
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At Tailhook Flag Panel, crowd was told, basically, "Not going to happen. Couldn't gain consensus on a 'uniform appearance' standard. No one wanted to give up squadron t-shirts, embroidery, etc., and without a truly 'standard appearance', won't be doing this." Or words to that effect...full notes on Flag Panel Q&A's in the Private Naval Aviators Forum.
V/R, Spike
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