A corresponding watchbill is stood in Air Ops by LCDRs for Case III recoveries although they get to share seats with XO/ COs and even DCAG/CAG who drop in to watch so you may get called out b6 Air Ops or DCAG/CAG.
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Stupid questions about Naval Aviation (Pt 2)
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A corresponding watchbill is stood in Air Ops by LCDRs for Case III recoveries although they get to share seats with XO/ COs and even DCAG/CAG who drop in to watch so you may get called out b6 Air Ops or DCAG/CAG.
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That makes sense, especially thinking about...
I'd say more like from head on, but thats just me
Thanks everyone, makes more sense now. I appreciate it.
Lest we forget, in port/anchorage, there was also Hanger Deck O, Flight Deck O, Shore Patrol O, and who can forget Boat O...(let's see...thats "Red Right Returning"...correct??) LOL!!
Roger that; the term 'changed' to Carrier Air WING sometime in the mid-60s. CAG's originally were named for the BOAT that they were attached to -- i.e., 'ENTERPRISE AIR GROUP' instead of a numerical CAG number.
We used 'air group' and 'air wing' about 50-50 interchangeably when I was in ...
A sample 'YORKTOWN AIR GROUP', circa 1939-40:
Wanted to make a lot of "A4s in the biplane" jokes, but it just wouldn't pan out. Nice pic...
They still fly and usually get time in at least a couple platforms. We lost our Asst CAG LSO, "Bird" Crane during ODS in an F/A-18
I remember seeing C-12s and T-44s come in for the break and it made me wonder---do you P-3 guys fly the break? Or is it mainly downwind entries and straight-ins for y'all?
No, sadly, we don't fly the break any more. The last time I flew one was March or April of 2009 on deployment. Then big Navy said we were stressing the airframes too much and put the kibash on it.
Our S-3 transitions love to tell us we never really flew the break, but I digress.
Our S-3 transitions love to tell us we never really flew the break, but I digress.
Sad, it was always entertaining to watch you guys do it up at Whidbey whenever I was there.
Lucky this came up in this thread...
What is the break?
The simple answer is it's a faster way to get aircraft to land. What that means is instead of flying an approach at fairly low speeds (140 to, say, 200 kts) and landing, like an airliner (or P-3, now, sadly) the aircraft can come in at higher speed, 250 to 400 kts, and in formation.
Found this video on youtube. It might be kind of gay due to being a video game tutorial but it's actually a pretty good description of what it looks like. Speeds, etc. for the F/A-18 I can't vouch for, but you get the idea.
^ These nerds should be writing courseware for CNATRA. Better than most of the stuff I remember furiously clicking through.
I guess the Blues are the only ones talented enough to break to the right 
I guess the Blues are the only ones talented enough to break to the right
Naahhh! While fairly rare, some Military airfields have a right-hand pattern; i.e. NAS Lemoore is a right break on 32R or 14R when the normal landing runways 32L/14L are in other use (FMLP, Inst. Approach etc.).
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