There's actually several threads on this from both Tex and myself. Don't get locked into "accessories." Get a decent rifle learn it first along with ammo. Colt 6920/6940, Noveske Basic, BCM and Spike's is where I'd start if I were you.
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There's actually several threads on this from both Tex and myself. Don't get locked into "accessories." Get a decent rifle learn it first along with ammo. Colt 6920/6940, Noveske Basic, BCM and Spike's is where I'd start if I were you.
Build one! You'll learn more than you ever could buying a complete rifle by putting it together yourself. If you are looking that route, or even wanted a complete rifle, Palmetto State Armory is a good place to start. They had a mid-length 16" barrel with an Aimpoint PRO special a few months ago for $999, a very good deal.
I don't doubt your experience or proficiency, but I find this argument to be complete BS. This is like saying you can fly around with too much fuel. There's no reason to shortchange yourself. There is no downside to carrying an additional 5-7 rounds in a high capacity magazine besides a few ounces and a slight increase in grip size/very slight loss of concealability. High capacity magazines offer the opportunity for a skilled shooter to get more hits in a shorter amount of time. If you're not proficient, sure, it's just more opportunities to miss, but then again, nothing is going to help you if you suck.
Additionally, the only reason a 1911 should be considered an adequate platform anymore is that it's one of the easiest pistols to shoot under stress. There are more reliable, more accurate, higher capacity and lighter options available today. I love them, and have one, but it's not my go-to gun by far.
Of course! I forgot PSA's setup. That's a REALLY nice place to start with a rifle. Word on the 'web is that they shoot great, as well.
Tex_Hill
Airborne All the Way!!!
There is a member of M4Carbine.net with the user name C4iGrant who is really respected on their site and who owns store called G and R Tactical. He usually has great deals like this one on complete Colts.
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=6720
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=6720
I've purchased 2 Colts from him plus a couple of blem complete BCM lowers. His LPKs are good stuff too.
sodajones
Combat Engineer
Stripped Lowers are cheap and easy to build.
Uppers are cheaper to buy already assembled. The cost for tools required to assemble the barrel, barrel nut, etc of an upper brings the cost to the same amount you'd pay for an already assembled upper.
If you're going budget check out the del-ton "rifle kits" it has everything you need except the stripped lower receiver.
Tex_Hill
Airborne All the Way!!!
My advice to anyone wanting an AR is to read this thread over at M4Carbine.net BEFORE making your purchase. It will save you a lot of buyers remorse later on down the road.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=82739
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=82739
For me it's not so much that you might be able to do it for a few dollars less it's that you can build it configured exactly the way you want. Like soda says it's pretty easy to put together a lower with very basic tools. There are great tutorials on youtube.
All that said, my advice to someone getting into AR's for the first time is to buy (or maybe build) a basic carbine and shoot the hell out of it. Put a couple thousand rounds thru it, take a class or two. Then and only then will you even begin to understand what you really need/want in an AR. Most folks buy all kinds of dodads to hang off their rifle only to realize later that they aren't needed or don't work for them for one reason or the other. A lot of that expensive gear you thought you just "had to have" ends up in boxes once you get more experience. (ask me how I know)
I'm not a Colt fan boy. I own more BCM's and Noveske's than I own Colts. I've owned RRA's and Bushmasters that worked fine for me as well. BUT for a first AR you just absolutely can't go wrong with a Colt 6920 for $ 985.00. If you can find a 6720 for around a grand to me that's even better.
What Tex said.............
Tex_Hill
Airborne All the Way!!!
I've been looking for a sling to go on my new Springfield "Loaded" M1A. I believe that a quality rifle like this deserves a quality sling. I was looking at the Ching sling, but that would require modifying the stock which I'm not willing to do. In my research I've come across Les Tam slings. Les is located in Hawaii and he has a 5 month waiting list. He custom makes each sling to the customer's height, weight, and rifle type. I was just curious if anyone here had any experience with his work.
Thanks,
Tex
Thanks,
Tex
Sapper!
Excuse the BS...
The standard issue type slings tend to slip, I have a leather (CMP) and a synthetic thick leather "like" sling (Turner AWS) on my national match AR and M1 Garand. They don't slip and after a few slow fire legs it's almost cutting through your skin but it doesn't move that is for sure!
Tex_Hill
Airborne All the Way!!!
M14forum is how I found about the Les Tam slings. His slings have a great reputation with the members of that site. I just wanted to see if anyone here was familiar with them.
Tex_Hill
Airborne All the Way!!!
Well I just got off the phone with Mr. Tam. He's a very nice and knowledgable man, definitly a pleasure to speak to. The waiting list for one of his slings is now one year. I placed my order with him, but I won't have to send him my payment until about a month before he gets ready to make it. I chose to go with a dark brown sling with parkerized frogs. He's going to put NM on it for "National Match", the Army logo, my last name, and the year my sling is made. This sling will become an heirloom I can be proud to pass on to one of my kids.
