Okay...I'm an old fart...commence the head-against-wall beating. Good luck with that.Generally, your advice is sound. However, I'm guessing you haven't dealt with a certain community before. And if you have any experience outside that community, it makes things even more frustrating. There's a lot of times where you need to ask why because the only reason you'll get back is "...because that's how we've always done it." And if you think I'm just talking about INFOSEC, sadly, you are mistaken.