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Secondary Warfare Insignia

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Afterburner76

Life is Gouda
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I was trying to get the regs to open up on Bupers, but it keep freezing on me, so I came to source #2... AW.

Ok, so here's my question. On the Service Dress White (Choker) where would one's secondary warfare insignia go? I know on the khaki or service white's it goes on the flap of the breast pocket. On the SDW does it just go 1/4" below the bottom row of ribbons?
 

Morgan81

It's not my lawn. It's OUR lawn.
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Bupers said:
a. When wearing ribbons, place badges immediately below the bottom row of ribbons in the secondary position. When wearing badges in secondary position, a secondary warfare device/breast insignia is not authorized to be worn.

b. When wearing large medals, place badges immediately below the bottom row of medals so that only the medallion of each badge is visible. When wearing badges in the secondary position, a secondary warfare device/breast insignia is not authorized to be worn.
Cut and pasted....
 

Afterburner76

Life is Gouda
pilot
A badge is different than a "warfare insignia". Looking for a specific answer that's different from what you pasted. Thanks though!

prob the guys who have 2 warfare insignias would know though... any takers?
 

trvsmrtn

Registered User
pilot
(c) Secondary position with ribbons or medals. The insignia is centered below ribbons with the top of the device 1/4 inch below the top of the pocket or pocket flap, or centered below medals with the top of the device 1/4 inch below the lowest row of medals.
 

Afterburner76

Life is Gouda
pilot
(c) Secondary position with ribbons or medals. The insignia is centered below ribbons with the top of the device 1/4 inch below the top of the pocket or pocket flap, or centered below medals with the top of the device 1/4 inch below the lowest row of medals.

Getting warmer. Therein lies my question. 1. The SDW has no pocket or pocket flap. 2. The SDW is worn with ribbons only (not full dress or dinner dress, just service dress, i.e. no medals).

Still searchin... next?
 

ea6bflyr

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The most important part about warfare devices is as follows:

Chapter 5 section 2:
(3) Personnel with multiple qualifications, may wear two insignia, placing one in the primary position and the second in the secondary position, within the following guidelines:

(a) Only one insignia from any single category of insignia listed above <(paragraph 5201.2.a.)> is authorized for wear at the same time.

(b) Warfare qualification insignia take precedence over other qualification insignia and are placed in the primary position.

(c) Two warfare insignia, each from separate warfare categories, are authorized following these rules:

1 The warfare insignia of the specialty in which currently serving will be worn in the primary position.

2 If not currently serving in a warfare specialty, or have not earned the warfare insignia of the specialty in which currently serving: officers will wear the insignia corresponding to their designator, otherwise the warfare insignia earned first in the primary position; all other personnel will wear the warfare insignia earned first in the primary position.

(4) If no longer designated as a warfare specialist, continue wearing the earned warfare insignia, following the guidelines of this chapter, unless prohibited from doing so by administrative action.

(5) When insignia has both gold and silver versions, enlisted personnel wear silver, officers wear gold, within the following rules:

(a) Enlisted personnel who qualify for insignia, and are subsequently advanced to officer status continue wearing the enlisted insignia until qualified for a corresponding officer insignia; then replace the enlisted insignia with the officer insignia.

(b) Enlisted personnel who have been awarded the Small Craft insignia and are subsequently advanced to officer status wear the gold Small Craft Insignia.

(c) Enlisted personnel, who qualified in a warfare specialty as officers and were subsequently reverted to enlisted status, may continue to wear the officer insignia.

(6) Enlisted personnel awarded the Craftmaster insignia and subsequently advanced to officer status may continue to wear the Craftmaster Insignia.

So don't be the guy wearing Pilot or NFO wings with EAWS wings.....or the SWO pin with ESWS.

-ea6bflyr ;)
 

Afterburner76

Life is Gouda
pilot

again, the bupers site keeps freezing on me. I think it's prob my comp that's the problem.

Anyway, if it's not actually spelled out on there (which I doubt it is otherwise you guys would have pasted), I'n hoping some dual qualled people might share how they personally do it on their SDW's...

Do you just go for the 1/4" below the ribbon thing? Or 'imagine' a pocket flap in the normal 'pocket flap location'?

Thanks again!
 

BACONATOR

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again, the bupers site keeps freezing on me. I think it's prob my comp that's the problem.

Anyway, if it's not actually spelled out on there (which I doubt it is otherwise you guys would have pasted), I'n hoping some dual qualled people might share how they personally do it on their SDW's...

Do you just go for the 1/4" below the ribbon thing? Or 'imagine' a pocket flap in the normal 'pocket flap location'?

Thanks again!

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, or else I'm just retarded (believe me, quite likely), but I am looking at my chokers and see a pocket and pocket flap quite clearly. :confused:

/flame on
 

ea6bflyr

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again, the bupers site keeps freezing on me. I think it's prob my comp that's the problem.

Anyway, if it's not actually spelled out on there (which I doubt it is otherwise you guys would have pasted), I'n hoping some dual qualled people might share how they personally do it on their SDW's...

Do you just go for the 1/4" below the ribbon thing? Or 'imagine' a pocket flap in the normal 'pocket flap location'?

Thanks again!

I've worn two warfare pins since 1988. So if you are talking about this uniform:
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Then the ribbons go 1/4" inch above the pocket centered, your pilot wings go 1/4" above the ribbons centered, and your secondary warfare pin goes 1/4 inch below your ribbons...you guessed it...centered.

-ea6bflyr ;)
 

Afterburner76

Life is Gouda
pilot
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, or else I'm just retarded (believe me, quite likely), but I am looking at my chokers and see a pocket and pocket flap quite clearly. :confused:

/flame on

Woah... Just busted the ol' rags out of the closet. I AM in fact retarded. Let the verbal assault begin.

I'm sorry for wasting everyone's time!!!!

DOH!!!!
 

ea6bflyr

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Woah... Just busted the ol' rags out of the closet. I AM in fact retarded. Let the verbal assault begin.

I'm sorry for wasting everyone's time!!!!

DOH!!!!

Just go ahead and kick your own ass.....we'll wait. :D And all this at 1G 0 KTS. Glad you weren't in the aircraft. :D :D

-ea6bflyr ;)
 

BACONATOR

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Woah... Just busted the ol' rags out of the closet. I AM in fact retarded. Let the verbal assault begin.

I'm sorry for wasting everyone's time!!!!

DOH!!!!

Haha. I haven't worn mine in a year, so your post actually had me in my damn closet checking to make sure I wasn't crazy.
 
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