You be the skipper, I'll be your XO. Nobody can outrank us. (Read: No 0-4s.)
Hell, if this thing takes off, we can even have a secret handshake, passwords, and a secret knock.
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Recruiter says "pilot technically closed now"
- Thread starter canav08
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You be the skipper, I'll be your XO. Nobody can outrank us. (Read: No 0-4s.)
Hell, if this thing takes off, we can even have a secret handshake, passwords, and a secret knock.
Joint tours available??
JMonte85
Pro-rec SNA
canav08
Final Select SNA OCS 08 July 12
Thanks for the serious advice!
I'm not freaking out, I started this thread trying to find out if there was a legit reason my recruiter (who is not an officer) was telling me "pilot is closed". Given that others are still working on pilot apps as normal, I was wondering why I was being treated differently. I have a pretty high up contact who is willing to help me go over my recruiters head but I did not want to do it unless I first tried to get as much info as possible. Id rather be "wrong" on here than go above my recruiters head blindly and be told the same thing. Hence this thread. I'd really like to work with the guy who the NRD secretary put me in touch with so as to not seem like some elitist who thinks he is too good for an E-8 who works OCS packages in my area since I'm 500+ miles from the closest NRD.
I asked my recruiter to clarify exactly what he meant by "pilot is closed" and he is now singing a different song and saying "we can go ahead with submitting for the 23 Jan pilot board". I don't know if he is misinformed or just has some magical info that nobody else seems to get. Id go with the former with no offense intended, he just does not seem super familiar with the process and I'm having to bring up components of the app the he does not even know about.
I've got a thick skin for the entire process and anything that goes with it, Ive been through this once with the AF and was selected then bounced for a hernia which has since been repaired. I know how it is. Trust me, I'm not putting all my eggs in the SNA basket, anyone would be stupid/elitist to do so. I don't know where you got that impression of me. I'm not sitting with my thumb in my rear waiting for the Navy to come grab me and throw me in a cockpit.
That said, you are all acting like I was entirely crazy and out of line for posting a thread about a bombshell that my recruiter dropped related to the board. I did preface it with "my recruiter said" should often come with a can of salt but I still thought it significant gouge that was worth following up on as I weighed my options. If somebody was telling you that you can't submit a package and you are watching others do it just fine, would you not reach out to other applicants, find out whats really going on and then adjust accordingly to make sure you get the same opportunity (not hand out so save the USN does not owe you anything comments) as anybody else who is qualified? Food for thought.
When the deadline comes, I just want to be able to say that I pursued the opportunity as vigorously as I could have and did everything in my power to try to get selected. I'm motivated to meet every SNA board I can because I'm 24 and not getting any younger. With the reality of today's commissioning timelines, I have very few shots left to apply. So sorry if I'm a little anal about being told I can't apply when clearly that's not the friggin case as of now. I understand boards get canceled but that would be news that people on here would have which, again is why I asked.
Well you got the answer you were looking for from your recruiter: board is on for Jan 23. I think you should just move on from this situation and look forward to the future. I was wondering why you didn't go back into the AF program after fixing the hernia if you were already accepted? Good luck with your endeavors.
canav08
Final Select SNA OCS 08 July 12
Thanks!
For the AF I had been accepted as a weather officer when I went to MEPS and had the whole hernia thing go down. The AF was not willing to hold my acceptance while I got surgery and waited the required 6 months so I was out of luck. Very frustrating but also understandable. I've heard conflicting stories on how willing USN is to work with medical issues between pro rec and final select, etc. They seem maybe a hair more lenient than the AF.
Anyways, the AF is having a rated board in Dec but it seems the convention is that you pretty much need a PPL these days. Not entirely the case with USN so thats why I'm here. If this does not work out, I'll try AF again for weather officer or maybe try a rated board and see what happens.
Officer Recruiter
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As a officer recruiter I can tell recruiters are frustrated with OCS boards as well. Best bet is score a 60 or better on the ASTB and get at least 7-8-8 on the Aviation portion and I think you will have a great shot.
FLYNAVY20
Pro Rec, SNA, OCS 09-12
I'm surprised you've gotten this far with your package without even taking the ASTB. The average ASTB scores for pro yes candidates are incredibly high. Your recruiter should know these averages. I was supposed to be in with the fiscal year 11 group of pilots but was moved to fiscal year twelve because of budget cuts. I literally had two OCS dates. One in september (fiscal 11) then got moved to January (fiscal 12). My recruiter said I was 1 of roughly 26 bumped into fiscal 12 and there were about 180 remaining slots for 12. You're recruiter should know all of this (I imagine). I got a pro yes Nov 2011 (took six months to find out) and am still 3 months out from starting OCS. I recommend you crush the ASTB ASAP, submit your package, and PRAY. Best of luck.
FLYNAVY20
Pro Rec, SNA, OCS 09-12
Also, continue to be persistent. Sorry for all the "I's" but I'm just trying to draw from my own experience. I probably drove my recruiter crazy! I called, e-mailed, and texted for a hundred questions I had. Get the answers you need. Lastly, after I took the ASTB, my recruiter (who is now a great friend of mine), basically told me the scores weren't good enough to submit and we wouldn't be submitting my package. If I had sulked and said ok, then I wouldn't be where I'm at now. I looked him in the face and told him we're submitting my scores (6/7/6, 53). Ok maybe it wasn't quite that brash but I wouldn't take no for an answer. I willed him into submitting those decent scores. I believed in my intangibles and package and I'm like you, I'm 25 now and not getting any younger. I was downright frantic to get my package in. I got a pro yes on the first go round. Try to be patient and keep at it.
JMonte85
Pro-rec SNA
Yea I had a recruiter who kept telling me to retake my astb as well after being a non-select once.. Whether he was right or not, I told him I didn't want to risk going lower and told him I was happy with strengthening other areas in my package and leaving the astb scores alone. I scored 58 7 7 6, and was picked up as alternate SNA in August.
Don't say that! It's disqualifying!!!