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No More Redneck Parasailing?!?

lmnop

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if what you're talking about is what i'm thinking of, which is the harness straps hooked up to the elastic bungees that slide down a wire from a higher point to a lower point, this contraption is not the same animal we're talking about.

the one at vance was a pulley on a cord about 8 feet off the ground. when i dangle my monkey arms my feet were probably a dizzying 6 inches off the ground. some pretty serious acceleration can happen from that height.

The harness straps device is the 34 foot tower. The lateral drift trainer is identical to the lateral drift apparatus from Benning. This article tells the story:http://www.vance.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123072088.
 

Gonzo08

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Rumor Confirmed

I can confirm that redneck parasailing is no longer in the API syllabus. The last class of FY08 is the last class to do it. I am in 0901 the 1st class of FY09 and it was stricken from our training schedule. :(
 

HAL Pilot

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When I went through AOCS in 1983, we did overwater parasailing not redneck/overland. The reason - too many injuries NPQing people from flying and the Navy. It was a recent change then (within the past couple of years or so) and we were still hearing horror stories of shattered bones.

They also justified it by saying most ejections were overwater so it made more sense to do the training there.

Worked for me because I spent 5 months stashed at water survival as a parasailing demonstrator and boat officer. I'd demo the parasailing on Tuesdays and play boat-o for the helo pick-ups on Wednesdays. Grueling job and schedule, but someone had to do it.
 

Herc_Dude

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Tell that to the guy in my class who fucked up his knee and got NPQed from Aviation. OBTW, this was when they were cutting attrites loose, so it was "thanks for your service and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out." What a way to end a career, and waste the Navy's money and an Academy education.
Point taken ... and it sounds like the training HAL Pilot went through might still have a place in API (and not just the thing you do in the pool but doing it out in the water while hangin in the chute.) A way to get the training while avoiding situations like you stated. Then again, if I find myself hangin from any chute, breakin my hip/leg/knee/head is the least of my worries ...

Hoo-rah, yut-yut only goes so far. I thought it was fairly high-risk for the return in training you got.
You realize that you are telling this to an aviator who has to get up at 0-dark-thirty to do body hardening, etc so that the color of his belt is to the Corps liking, right? :D
 

snake020

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The story from "them" is about 8 months back a female SNA landed wrong and shattered a hip. She's NPQ from flying...and most likely not going to recover enough to stay in the Navy.

She is a friend of mine and there is even a video of her breaking her leg. Long recovery, but she did get an up-chit many months later and went on to primary, so whoever said she is still NPQ is lying.
 

Brunes

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She is a friend of mine and there is even a video of her breaking her leg. Long recovery, but she did get an up-chit many months later and went on to primary, so whoever said she is still NPQ is lying.

Oh god- Video...::cringes:: Good to know she's back up tho!!
 

HighDimension

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There was a team of safety observers observing our class (08-36) during the redneck parasailing so perhaps they gave a less than favorable report.
 

BACONATOR

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It was a blast, but very obviously dangerous. I thought "OK, cool. It'll be just like the practice PLFs, only with a jump". When I hit the ground, and PLF-ed, my knee promptly went into my face and one of the koch fittings smacked me in the head. I then realized how easily you could break bones if your fall was done improperly. The second "unassisted" fall was even more violent.

Cool to experience, probably more tame than a real ejection/bailout, and still very dangerous. Glad I did it, but understand why safety is nixing it.
 

insanebikerboy

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It was a blast, but very obviously dangerous. I thought "OK, cool. It'll be just like the practice PLFs, only with a jump". When I hit the ground, and PLF-ed, my knee promptly went into my face and one of the koch fittings smacked me in the head. I then realized how easily you could break bones if your fall was done improperly. The second "unassisted" fall was even more violent.

I'm not singling you out but your example provides a good point. To me, it sounds like you didn't land properly otherwise your knee wouldn't have hit you in the face.

I would be willing to bet people who've gotten busted up didn't fall correctly.
 

BACONATOR

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I'm not singling you out but your example provides a good point. To me, it sounds like you didn't land properly otherwise your knee wouldn't have hit you in the face.

I would be willing to bet people who've gotten busted up didn't fall correctly.

Ya the first fall was a wakeup call that I wasn't landing in a pit of mulch. :D

Second one was better. First one is where the truck tows you in step-downs to prevent you from coming down too quick, to give you a feel for it. Second one they release you. Had I done the first landing on the second go, I'd have broken my nose.

Second one was fine, but still hurt smacking the deck even when done correctly (not to mention the metal fitting meeting skull)
 

IKE

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I would be willing to bet people who've gotten busted up didn't fall correctly.
I'd agree. An HM2 came along with my API class for the parasailing, and left with a broken leg. I didn't see it, but the guys running the event said it looked like he got a little scared at the last second. Instead of following his training, he forgot it, and decided to land with his knees locked...
 

Mumbles

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The morning that we went down to Foley for this evolution, I saw some people that should have seriously F'd themselves up on the touchdown...nobody was seriously hurt. Later in the day, we had a serious squall line come through real quick without warning and some guy got blown across the field and into the trees because he couldn't get his koch fittings undone....in the middle of a lightning storm. I can't remember, but dosen't the line stay attached to the pickup truck pulling you??
 

chupacabra

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We did two runs, the first one with the line still attached to the truck, the second they disconnect it and let you fall untethered.
 
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