EDIT: not new, but still some pretty good pictures.
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/292/...era_for_68_years_-_Pearl_Harbour_Bombing.html
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/292/...era_for_68_years_-_Pearl_Harbour_Bombing.html
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New Pearl Harbor Photos Found
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Floppy_D
I am the hunted
tlane2 said:
They didn't. The ship that the alleged sailor was stationed on wasn't built until after the attack:
Snopes
Most of those photos have been in the Naval Archives for a while:
Naval Archives
Nonetheless, good pictures.
In a word, yes there were, not here but elsewhere. These are copies of photos from the National Archives/ NHHC photographs.
Two examples:
The photograpahy of the wreckage of the USS Downes (DD-375) and USS Cassin (DD-372) in Drydock is exactly the same as the photography in the National Archives #80G-19943, down the the shadows cast by the two men on the rim of the drydock.
The photograph of the explosiion of the magazine of the USS Shaw, DD-373's is an NHHC photograph, NH-86118, exactly the same save a bit of cropping on the left part of the photo.
I could go on but this is as phony as a three dollar bill. Shameful.
You're exactly right, Chief. The pictures of the magazine blowing & the 2 DDs are in a WWII pictoral history my father (PB4Y2 waist-gunner & AMS2) brought back from the war. They've been in the public domain at least 60 years. FWIW.
The National Archives photos of the Shaw exploding is 80-G-16871.
Link and compare: http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2004/winter/images/pearl-harbor.jpg
My grandfather was on Iwo as a seabee and had been a reporter for an oilfield magazine in his pre-war days. The only item of personal gear that he brought with him was his camera, and he brought back some amazing images. They are all in a couple of photo albums in my mom's house, and getting them scanned has been on the "to do list" for the past 10 years.
I remember looking at them when I was in grade school, and many of those pictures are burned into my brain. The fighting there was hell, and I have never seen any collection or film description that comes close to getting as graphic as those pictures. It was a real meat grinder, and the people that went through that had to carry a bit of that nightmare with them for the rest of their lives.
I remember looking at them when I was in grade school, and many of those pictures are burned into my brain. The fighting there was hell, and I have never seen any collection or film description that comes close to getting as graphic as those pictures. It was a real meat grinder, and the people that went through that had to carry a bit of that nightmare with them for the rest of their lives.
Not a problem, at least you're tryin' ... BUT: you guys need to immerse yourselves into Naval Aviation history & tradition -- it's not part of the job description, but it should be. And it's not something 'nice to know'-- it's MANDATORY.
It's about WHO YOU ARE ... and it shows respect for those who came before you ...
Pearl Harbor ... Coral Sea ... Midway ... Philippine Sea ... Okinawa ... Korea ... Vietnam ... the Cold War ... Desert Storm ... all of 'em ...
Learn it ... study it ... KNOW IT. And then you'll know WHO YOU ARE and there won't be any 'failures' on your part ...
Believe it.
Amen to that, my friend. I just watched "Saving Private Ryan" again today. One of the few movies that I would ever watch more than once. The request from the Hanks character to "Make sure you earn it..." falls on a lot of deaf ears today. God bless all those who have gone before us and those who do it still today.
The National Archives photos of the Shaw exploding is 80-G-16871.
Just a side note -- that looks like the NEVADA makin' her run for the channel on the right side of the picture ... a gutsy move, doomed to failure.
The amazing thing was the Shaw was repaired in months and served throughout the war
When I get home for Xmas. I'll try and scan some of the entries from my Great Grandfather's (the Anglo side of the family) diary. He was a Master Chief on USS Ralph Talbot. He was with the ship all the way from Pearl Harbor to Savo Island. I have one of his dress uniforms with ribbons in a shadow box, I'm thinking about donating it to the 45th Infantry Museum in Oklahoma City. They also display a lot of stuff from Oklahoma vets in different services..they'd probably give it the care it deserves. I even have the boatswain's whistle from the ship too, well I was told it was.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Ralph_Talbot_%28DD-390%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Ralph_Talbot_%28DD-390%29
I escorted the remains of a USS Oklahoma sailor home from Pearl Harbor a little over two years ago. Ensign Eldon Paul Wyman. The tour of the USS Oklahoma memorial and getting to put your fingers into bullet holes made by Japanese fighters totally brings that history to life.
To "dog pile on the rabbit" here; up at the War College we actually get more positive response from our non-Navy students when we discuss the history of the U.S. Navy and naval warfare in general than we receive from our USN students.
Guadalcanal, Leyte Gulf, the Tanker Wars, Falkland Islands war, Ramadam/Yom Kippur war and the Battle of Jutland always make for interesting discussion amongst the students.
I'll admit I was pretty ignorant when I came through the school house years ago, but the U.S. has a rich history of great heroes who are mostly ignored by today's Naval Officers and sailors.
We all need to do a better job at understanding our past to appreciate how and why we are what we are today.
Here's part of the OKLAHOMA superstructure I stumbled upon that was pulled out of the Harbor @ 6 years ago. The MCPO said I was the ONLY one that had asked what it was ... it sat on the ramp down by the Ford Island Brig at the south end of the old runway ... it was only there for about a year ... all gone now ...
All images by A4sForever