It’s easier than shots. You just don’t allow either. Mandate it. Because mandates work. Problem solved.
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Navy Reserve COVID Vaccinations by October
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Whatever happened to decisions having consequences, personal responsibility, voting with your feet, and no victim mentality?
No one is holding people down and making them get the shot. People are still free to make decisions as they see fit. There's just ramifications for those decisions.
Also sure seems like a lot of folks who are arguing against a mandate have in fact gotten their shots and already decided that, for whatever reason (continued employment, personal safety, safety of others, civic duty), it makes sense to get it. So why spend so much time worrying over decisions that other people are free to make when so many of you purport to be all about responsibility and no victim mentality?
No one is holding people down and making them get the shot. People are still free to make decisions as they see fit. There's just ramifications for those decisions.
Also sure seems like a lot of folks who are arguing against a mandate have in fact gotten their shots and already decided that, for whatever reason (continued employment, personal safety, safety of others, civic duty), it makes sense to get it. So why spend so much time worrying over decisions that other people are free to make when so many of you purport to be all about responsibility and no victim mentality?
Getting rid of motorcycles could be done with an order and would save a ton of money as well as lives. I just want our sailors to live.
Interested in details on a mandate that prevents suicide.
So you support mandates that save lives?
Depends on the mandate obviously. Motorcycle deaths don’t impact the big guy’s political agenda. Only readiness, which we selectively care about.
So there are some lives you support mandates to save and others you don’t?
Congrats, you've listed the few loopholes available. But you're ignoring the fact that those loopholes have historically only been used by a small percentage of people and that the vast majority of Americans get their kids vaxxed in line with the recommended vaccine schedule for children has resulted in all of us living in a country where employers dont need to have vaccine mandates because it can be assumed that folks are covered and that this coverage has let us all enjoy a world with minimal risk of measles, mumps, rubella, smallpox, chicken pox, hepatitis, HPV, etc.
Except until recently when a growing number of exceptions have started to ruin it for everyone else and the number of cases of things like measles have been on the rise because people aren't following the practices that have given all of freedom from disease.
I just want our sailors to live. So they need to be vaccinated even if they’re not at risk. Even if they’ve already had covid. But if they continue to die and be injured year after year after year while we waste money and manpower enabling them, that’s fine. Because those deaths are ok, and that readiness isn’t readiness.
We agree. No one is not ‘at risk’. Ask Aaron Rodgers.
Aaron Rodgers is at risk of covid policies. Not covid. But you know that. There’s no way you’re stupid enough to actually believe there’s no one not at risk. If the risk is a mild infection, guess what? The vaccinated face almost the same risk.
Sorry, my bad. I thought he caught it and had to leave his job for a fixed period of time. Must’ve been fake news. Everywhere.
Im against mandates, but after billions of doses and a year and a half since the first people got the shots, I’m really inclined to be in camp “modern medical miracle.” Obviously, that opinion changed from healthy skepticism at first. But it really does seem at this point that it is a modern marvel. It’s not 100% perfect as no vaccine is, but it does seem close.
At some point we need to find a way for people who do come to this realization to get vaccinated without losing face. People are so invested in their viewpoints, which are continually reinforced via social media, that they can’t allow themselves to change their minds when faced with new information.
Like I said, covid policy is the threat to him. Not the sniffles.
Of course the WH press secretary had to leave her job. But she was vaccinated. Scary risks!