Tell me more about the freedom you lost when you were vaccinated for measles. How much has that changed your life?
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Navy Reserve COVID Vaccinations by October
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Neither was the Anthrax vaccine during the Gulf War or being arbitrarily assigned as a drone pilot.
Requirements of jobs change, you either f**cking deal with it or leave. Period. Everything else is noise. A lot of people talk sht and act Internet tough with this stuff and I guarantee you that no one here on AirWarriors raising a stink about the COVID vaccine is going to put their money where their mouth is and resign in protest based on their beliefs.
And, before you ask, yes, I have left places in protest because I did not agree with XYZ, or decided I was not going to be subjected to certain treatment. My last SELRES unit was a mint example of the latter. That's when I dropped to the VTU and was instrumental in having that SELRES O6 CO removed to never be a CO again.
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Stick to submarine shit. Good lord.
We could ban smoking on ships…obviously first and second hand smoke is much less dangerous than the ‘Vid, as we refuse to do so…interesting the lack of willpower when it comes to some deadly behaviors versus others…
Banning smoking would hurt readiness. And we care about READINESS
First off, I was referencing the civilian mandate, to which none of you examples apply. Name another vaccine mandated by the federal govt. as a condition for employment? Mandating in the military is different, and in one of these threads I've stated my opinion that it's completely fine, it's just not smart (it is dividing us and hurting readiness) and we should have compassion for those who choose not to take it. I've been pleasantly surprised SECDEF and others disagree with Brett and others here and have ordered that service heads have compassion.
Second, the evidence has already convinced me and I think everyone who's posted here that the risk/reward of the vax is worth it for us. No amount of evidence, however, will convince me that we should force civilians to take a vax that only helps them. If COVID were actually highly lethal to even the majority of Americans, and we had a vaccine that actually prevented it's spread, then I could be convinced by the argument that a vax mandate should be considered. As it is, most of America has a fraction of 1% chance of dying from COVID, and a vaccine that lowers that further for anyone who wants it, but it doesn't stop the spread. Hardly warrants anything close to a national mandate. Fauci and Biden agreed with me, by the way, until they didn't.
And by the way, tens of thousands of servicemen are putting their money where their mouths are on the mandate. I am, in a way, though the straw that broke the camel's back for me came with the Navy's handling of COVID long before the vax mandate.
I wish them all well in their future endeavors.
Name another virus with similar stats that most (ie, herd immunity) of Americans aren't vaccinated for as a requirement to attend school. There isn't one as this is the first widespread respiratory pandemic since vaccines have been widely available. So while an unprecedented requirement it's no different than the long standing requirement for all Americans to be fully vaccinated during congregate settings, ie school.
Flu. And it’s more dangerous to young children than covid. What do I win?
No, I said I wish them well. It's in English and I assume Marines are fully literate. I, myself, have lost $50,000 in SELRES pay over the last four years based on my decisions to drop to the VTU because I chose not to serve under a f*cking turd of a CO who was an O6 USNA grad football player pilot type.
What are you doing besides talking sh*t? ?
Damn bro! 50k over four years is some serious scratch. That’s big time.
Here’s the post where you said fuck em all to people who don’t want forced vaccination. Maybe you were drunk.
Funny... That was in response to a private sector civilian.
You wish servicemembers well, who are already subject to numerous vaccine requirements. But civilians subject to executive order tyranny can get fucked. Take a break. See a professional about your feelings.
Since it wasn’t mandated I have a measles vaccine for anything other than school, I didn’t lose any freedoms. There was private school or home schooling if my parents had made the choice not to give me a measles vaccine.
Next dumb question?