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Medical Condition "Bible"

umich44

New Member
From what I am reading, it looks like I can possibly have my DQ reversed, so long as I show ROM, strength, etc. I am curious if I have to see a military doctor or if I can see a civilian doctor. I am a dependent so seeing a military doctor that is close wouldn't necessarily be a problem.
 

sevenhelmet

Uh oh...
pilot
I can tell you with 100% certainty that a previously torn labrum is a medically disqualifying condition. However, you may be able to apply for a waiver. I tore my labrum after I started flight school, got it fixed, and have been flying since 2006 on a waiver with no medical or administrative problems. However, I don't know if you can get a waiver before you are actually in the pipeline- Doc's Corner should be able to help you out with the admin details there.

Good luck to you!
 

NavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
From what I am reading, it looks like I can possibly have my DQ reversed, so long as I show ROM, strength, etc. I am curious if I have to see a military doctor or if I can see a civilian doctor. I am a dependent so seeing a military doctor that is close wouldn't necessarily be a problem.
When it comes to a waiver while it may be something that CAN be waived, but the question is WILL they waive it? I had several people that had items that could have been waived but N3M made the decision not to waive it.

One other thing to consider is an item that might be waived while a person is currently on AD may not be something that will be waived for a person that is not on AD.
 

RecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
I had one applicant in a similar situation. He got a full consultation from an orthopedic surgeon with a letter saying he was good to go. N3M still turned it down. Stuff like that is difficult.
 

Sundevil106150

Well-Known Member
Ok so I have a quick question in regards to a medical condition. I am perfectly healthy, wrestled since I was little and parts of college. No broken bones, pains, or other issues. However, I do have a little bit of too much iron in my blood and is considered being anemic. Its called Beta Thalassemia or Cooley's Anemia. Am I screwed for my MEPS if it does not affect whatsoever besides not being able to donate blood?
 

MGoBrew11

Well-Known Member
pilot
I wouldn't worry about it too much. Anemia waivers are pretty common from what I've seen (for low blood iron count, not high).

Don't sweat it. If you're within the standards, they will pass you. NAMI whammy is overblown.
 

TimeBomb

Noise, vibration and harshness
Sundevil,
You are describing two separate conditions. Beta thalassemia is not associated with iron overload unless the anemia has been erroneously treated with iron supplements. This isn't unusual, as iron deficiency anemia and beta thal have similar abnormalities on a routine complete blood count. Some clinicians don't take the extra step to figure out exactly what is going on, but rather prescribe iron supplements for the anemia of thalassemia, even though it won't help. Thalessemias are a result of genetic abnormalities in red blood cell production, not a deficiency of precursors. You'll need waivers for commissioning as well as for flight. Neither should be much of a problem, but make sure you bring all your medical records to MEPS. Figure on getting a request from N3M/BUMED as well prior to commissioning, and a workup at NAMI prior being accepted into flight training.
R/
 

NavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Ok so I have a quick question in regards to a medical condition. I am perfectly healthy, wrestled since I was little and parts of college. No broken bones, pains, or other issues. However, I do have a little bit of too much iron in my blood and is considered being anemic. Its called Beta Thalassemia or Cooley's Anemia. Am I screwed for my MEPS if it does not affect whatsoever besides not being able to donate blood?
I won't go into if you will or won't get a waiver as it really depends somewhat of what the docs read and decide, but here is probably the path you will encounter.

submit documents to MEPS, if the condition you have is something that can be waived for general armed forces enlistment they will have you come in for a physical, then your paperwork will go to N3M for them to see if they will say you are OK to become and officer, they will defer qualification for aviation programs to NAMI

if MEPS say "not justified" then you can appeal to N3M they can say "continued processing warranted" then you have the physical at MEPS and follow the path above. If N3M says no to going to MEPS then you are essentially done.

if after going to MEPS N3M says NPQ then you are pretty much done.

you have a few hurdles to jump through, don't be concerned about MEPS, be concerned about N3M and NAMI, you may have to add in a consult or two along the way as well, with all that in the process I would say getting to the October board would be very optimistic unless everything goes just perfect.
 

donatello

New Member
Hello, I'm currently applying for OCS for SWO. My left eye is not 20/20 correctable, it is only 20/30 correctable. I am in the process of getting a waiver right now, but I've read on these boards that vision waivers are not easy to come by for people who aren't 20/20 correctable and can stop OCS dreams in their tracks. I'm also reading that if your waiver is denied, you are done. Can I get PRK or LASIK if this waiver gets denied and try again with 20/20 correctable vision, or am I simply done?
 

NavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Hello, I'm currently applying for OCS for SWO. My left eye is not 20/20 correctable, it is only 20/30 correctable. I am in the process of getting a waiver right now, but I've read on these boards that vision waivers are not easy to come by for people who aren't 20/20 correctable and can stop OCS dreams in their tracks. I'm also reading that if your waiver is denied, you are done. Can I get PRK or LASIK if this waiver gets denied and try again with 20/20 correctable vision, or am I simply done?
I would start talking to eye doctors about your options, I had a guy DQ because they put down he was not correctable to 20/20 we had it overturned once he went to another doctor was found to correct to 20/20 and after subsequent consults.
 

donatello

New Member
I would start talking to eye doctors about your options, I had a guy DQ because they put down he was not correctable to 20/20 we had it overturned once he went to another doctor was found to correct to 20/20 and after subsequent consults.
That's bad news. I need a second opinion right away. Do you know if I can apply again after I get LASIK if my waiver is denied? My officer recruiter thinks I can, but has never had to deal with a vision waiver before.
 

TimeBomb

Noise, vibration and harshness
I think your final disposition will depend on the nature of the abnormality that is preventing you from getting to 20/20 vision. Some vision abnormalities can't be corrected with Lasik or PRK. If that is the case, you would be disqualified with no waiver recommended since you can't get your vision "correctable to 2o/20".
R/
 

donatello

New Member
I think your final disposition will depend on the nature of the abnormality that is preventing you from getting to 20/20 vision. Some vision abnormalities can't be corrected with Lasik or PRK. If that is the case, you would be disqualified with no waiver recommended since you can't get your vision "correctable to 2o/20".
R/
Thanks for the information. If I can't get it corrected with LASIK or PRK, I guess it's time to go on with my life and hope the Navy one day changes its requirements. I'm trying to schedule an appointment with my Ophthalmologist right now.
 

KMC1020

Well-Known Member
I wasn't sure where else to put this so I'll just ask here. I went to MEPS and my OR said everything was good to go. Then he tells me that they need to results from my last lady appointment before they can submit my kit. That's fine and all, however I won't get my results until sometime in December. He said that my physical will probably expire by then. How is it that the physical can expire in only a month's time? Does that mean I have to go back to MEPS after I get my results? Nothing's going to change in 1 month.
 

NavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
I wasn't sure where else to put this so I'll just ask here. I went to MEPS and my OR said everything was good to go. Then he tells me that they need to results from my last lady appointment before they can submit my kit. That's fine and all, however I won't get my results until sometime in December. He said that my physical will probably expire by then. How is it that the physical can expire in only a month's time? Does that mean I have to go back to MEPS after I get my results? Nothing's going to change in 1 month.
He is thinking like someone that has only done enlisted recruiting, the PAP results go to N3M with the exam from MEPS, you have no reason to go back to MEPS unless they did not clear you.

Something else that makes me think he has only done enlisted recruiting is that he should have known and told you ahead of time that he needed a copy of your most recent PAP.
 
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