Everyone except TACAIR? Do helos still use them? Security folks? What's the reason for having the M9 and M11? They seem functionally equivalent.
I'm pretty sure the answer to "who is still using the M9" is "basically everyone in DoD outside SOCOM, besides Naval Aviation and some corner cases."That's all great, but it doesn't answer my question - why did the USN acquire two very similar 9mm pistols in a relatively short timeframe? Also, exactly who is still using the M9? Helos (at least east coast LAMPS) transitioned from the .38 to the M9 in the mid 90s. When did they transition to the M11? TACAIR had the M11 by 2000.
That's all great, but it doesn't answer my question - why did the USN acquire two very similar 9mm pistols in a relatively short timeframe? Also, exactly who is still using the M9? Helos (at least east coast LAMPS) transitioned from the .38 to the M9 in the mid 90s. When did they transition to the M11? TACAIR had the M11 by 2000.
Who in the Navy is still using the M9? I haven't seen one in the realm of aviation since the late 1990s.
If you have to keep your pistol and your sealed ammunition separate, does it really matter what kind of pistol it is?
If you have to keep your pistol and your sealed ammunition separate, does it really matter what kind of pistol it is?
Navy dudes in here have mentioned that they fly combat sorties with their ammo separate and sealed, and it's a big no-no to open it. No idea if that still goes on but I figured I'd tease them. I flew with a round chambered every single time, and I'm pretty sure I would make a point of ripping open the ammo and chambering a round if I was faced with such a policy.Wait, what? When does that apply? Training? Combat?
Maybe if you keep them both in glass boxes with little hammers next to them?
Personally never understood the M9 hate. It's like hating vanilla ice cream. It does the job. I shot the Sig and the M9 back to back once (at the 50 yard line!), and shot the M9 better -though that could be a function of being more used to it. That said, it's getting old, and we could use an update for material condition reasons, if nothing else.
Combat. Had to do it every freaking time in OEF.Wait, what? When does that apply? Training? Combat?
It's all fun and games until they send you home for doing that . . . don't know if they'd follow through on the threat, but that's what we were told at an AOM in no uncertain terms.Navy dudes in here have mentioned that they fly combat sorties with their ammo separate and sealed, and it's a big no-no to open it. No idea if that still goes on but I figured I'd tease them. I flew with a round chambered every single time, and I'm pretty sure I would make a point of ripping open the ammo and chambering a round if I was faced with such a policy.