NavyLonghorn
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Everytime someone starts a sentence with the world "actually," I die a little more on the inside.
mules83 said:actually....ground effect doesnt increase lift, it reduces induce drag.....i think
NavyVance said:Everytime someone starts a sentance with the world "actually," I die a little more on the inside.
Fly Navy said:And if you're flying in ground effect clean?
mules83 said:Basically ground effect kills wingtip vortices which is a by-product of lift (induce drag). Clean or not. Winglets on the big jets make the wing think it’s in a partial ground effect all flight long. This is a really basic explanation. I’m sure I’m going to get chewed out by someone smarter.
Im not sure if I answered your question.
ghost119 said:Maybe he was one of those kids who lived and breathed fighter pilot , then got a BUFF and was forced to make do. To bad we can't give him a swift kick to the balls now to wake him up to reality :icon_tong . Someone should have done that before he totalled a perfectly good a/c. Not everyone can be a fighter pilot, only those who like to race a/c down the runway on a crotch rocket .
Major Thompson said:"There was already some talk of maybe trying some other ridiculous maneuvers. - - his (Lt Col Holland) lifetime goal was to roll the B-52."
Mefesto said:Because in this guys case it was his attitude and demeanor, and a Leadership comprised of good ole boys that covered for him that lead to this. He should not have been flying because of his total disregard for limitations and safety, not because of a lack of ability or skill. He simply wouldn't accept that a B-52 wasn't an F-15 and guys that flew with him were scared out of their minds. Eventually it came down to a Squadron commander that knew what was going on, and forbid anyone in his unit from flying with said accident pilot. The CO was the only one to fly with him, for the sake of his pilots, and ultimatley was the one riding with him when he put it in. No one is taking cheap shots at this guy... it's the truth.
highlyrandom said:I'll buy that. I was really just referring to those who would take the "wanted to be a fighter pilot" thing too far, who weren't yet fighter pilots or any pilots. B-52s are pretty capable aircraft, and so are Hornets, but there are things you can't do in each, and as you know they're not all obvious to the Top Gun watcher. Especially how many ejections happen because the plane is about to depart the tarmac, let alone a flat spin headed out to sea...
Uhhhhh .... ACTUALLY ..... "WAS" would be the correct tense of the verb.Fly Navy said:That was ghost... and we all know how ghost is on the board.
"The Rule" (p.s., there ain't any rule) is what will get future guys killed.Barnard1425 said:What about dead guys who took other (now dead) guys with them when they bought the farm? Does that change the rule? I think maybe it should. I don't have anything to add re: airmanship, but a cheap shot doesn't seem to be a cheap shot when it's relevant and true.