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Looking for gouge? Ask your Stupid Questions about Naval Aviation here (Part 1)

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JTS11

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For those who don't know, the A6 Intruder was originally designed to land on the carrier without using a hook.

Just curious why they originally designed the A6 that way. What was the benefit or requirement to land on a carrier w/o a tailhook?

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HeyJoe

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Just curious why they originally designed the A6 that way. What was the benefit or requirement to land on a carrier w/o a tailhook?

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People were always try to avoid the violent decel as it has big impact on service life of a carrier aircraft. After WWII, Brits even looked at a giant rubber mattress instead of wires. Idea was to land with gear up and then be lifted out of the bed and gear lowered (like to see that happen every 45 seconds). They actually built a land based prototype and the supreme carrier trap legend (no, not "Lites", but "Winkle" Brown who eventually logged over 1,400 traps) did the first one, which ended up with Sea Vampire penetrating the rubber mattress. They did over 200 landings and then dropped it as an idea. They gave us angled decks and steam catapults, but this was one idea that didn't quite pan out.
 

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Back to the NVG's thing - the F-35 will have helmet-integrated NVG's? Neato, but how does that work? Sort of like the JHMCS "elephant man" helmets?

The Hornet guys drew stares when they first started wearing those things at the Boat. Lots of "you should get Doc to look at that, bro" comments.
 

HeyJoe

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Back to the NVG's thing - the F-35 will have helmet-integrated NVG's? Neato, but how does that work? Sort of like the JHMCS "elephant man" helmets?

The Hornet guys drew stares when they first started wearing those things at the Boat. Lots of "you should get Doc to look at that, bro" comments.


JHMCS gives you a HUD on your head (awesome tool for A/A and A/G despite how it looks) and adding Quad-Eye gives you unprecedented NVD capability. JSF goes a step further and integrates the NVD capability withing the helmet shell (see below). This has been a long sought-after goal, but keeping the helmet lightweight enough for ejection capatibility has been a tough bar to reach.

F-35 (JSF) HMDS
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HeyJoe

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^Interesting.

What kind of FOV does that thing have for use with the Mk-1 Eyeball?

You might want to get a F-35 brief or update because they've started revealing more and more of what was closehold until now, but basically, you can't think of it as a traditional FOV or even NVD. The image intensifier tube can display what it "sees" in a 40 degree FOV, but it is (or can be) integrated with what the aircraft "sees" with its Distributed Aperature System (DAS) and the Electro-optical Targeting System (Sniper FLIR in imbedded configuration) so you get benefit of a 8x20" Contiguous display on your head and can literally see through the floor. If it seems too much, you can verbally modify what you want via voice-activated cockpit controls.
 

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A4s - Who's the cat on the right, still in his SV2, talking to in this picture? Usually the Boss waits until you get back to the Ready Room to chew someone's butt...

Whoever he's talking to, I bet his end of the conversation is, "yessir...yessir...nosir...aye, aye, sir..." :D
 

HuggyU2

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In know of a non-VSTOL aircraft that took off from the CV without a cat shot. Although it had a hook, it did full stop on the CV without using it at least once.
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A4sForever

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A4s - Who's the cat on the right, still in his SV2, talking to in this picture? Usually the Boss waits until you get back to the Ready Room to chew someone's butt...

Whoever he's talking to, I bet his end of the conversation is, "yessir...yessir...nosir...aye, aye, sir..." :D
Everyone was doing the mandatory radio checks prior to the impending recovery..... LT. SV2 was one of our STOOF LSO's, fully qual'ed to wave the recip @ the field/ship/day/night ... but he was working on his day jet quals ... in fact, he was so "eager" that he ran over to the platform RIGHT AFTER trapping aboard to catch the next recovery (as you pointed out) --- or he was going to man up for the next launch AFTER the recovery -- can't remember which ... as he "had the duty" under training on the platform that day.

Actually ... he was on the wrong freq and was talking to me .... :D

We used him .... how you say? ... like you use a woman??? :eek::D


 

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One story out there goes like this: "I flew with a captain here at Delta who flew F-4's in VF-194, and he said that the expression came from the Mopeds that they rented while they were on cruise. The sound they made was described by one drunk pilot as "Hud'd Hud'n" and the expression became a mantra for VF-194."
 
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