farsightusf
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In recent history have there been any INTEL guys who were able to pick up the Aviation Observer wings?
In recent history have there been any INTEL guys who were able to pick up the Aviation Observer wings?
VP used to be the place to do this. The only problem was that to qualify, the Intell officer had to be on flight orders and that meant convincing the powers that be (starting with his detailer) it was necessary. During my DH tour (mid 90s) we were 1 of 2 squadrons (other than VPU) with EO cameras on board and were flying Bosnia targeting missions for IFOR and the pointy nose guys. Our skipper convinced the Intel Gods that flying the AIO was an added benefit when doing real-time inflight analysis of targets we were looking at. Our AIO prior to this deployment tried for over 2 years (with the COs help) and the Intel Gods refused to put that one on flight orders.In recent history have there been any INTEL guys who were able to pick up the Aviation Observer wings?
VP used to be the place to do this. The only problem was that to qualify, the Intell officer had to be on flight orders and that meant convincing the powers that be (starting with his detailer) it was necessary. During my DH tour (mid 90s) we were 1 of 2 squadrons (other than VPU) with EO cameras on board and were flying Bosnia targeting missions for IFOR and the pointy nose guys. Our skipper convinced the Intel Gods that flying the AIO was an added benefit when doing real-time inflight analysis of targets we were looking at. Our AIO prior to this deployment tried for over 2 years (with the COs help) and the Intel Gods refused to put that one on flight orders.
Of course that was 20+ years ago and I have no idea if that has changed. The flight order requirement used to be in 3710 and the Military Personnel Manual. The idea was to keep everyone who just wanted chest bling from doing the NAO syllabus and cheapening them.
In recent history have there been any INTEL guys who were able to pick up the Aviation Observer wings?
Yes. I know a Reserve Intel dude who was assigned to a squadron at NAS JAX. He was able to pick up his NAO wings.In recent history have there been any INTEL guys who were able to pick up the Aviation Observer wings?
https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-...000/1200Classification/Documents/1210-250.pdf
a. Qualify by Naval Air Training and Operating Procedures Standardization (NATOPS) standards of knowledge of aircraft systems and safety procedures.
b. Successfully complete a course of instruction as prescribed by the appropriate type commander or a Job Qualification Requirement assigned by the officer’s commanding officer (CO) associated with their flying mission.
c. Accumulate 200 hours of mission and/or training flight time related to the purpose of their assignment to duty involving flying.
d. Are assigned to duty involving flying for a period of not less than 6 months.
Having said that, VP is essentially the last bastion of NAO opportunities.
Yup. My buddy had a long line of people waiting on him to rotate out of that billet he was in.NAO wings for the non-URL O's who fly EP-3's are standard since they are part of the standard crew and easily get 200 hours. How much longer the EP-3's will be around for them to get their wings though...
That was the case when they were introduced but the qual is more rigorous now, and not a guarantee when facing the board.I got the IDC bling because I did some down-arrow on some Powerpoint
YMMV. I've seen at least one turd get hand held through multiple boards until the person finally got qualified.That was the case when they were introduced but the qual is more rigorous now, and not a guarantee when facing the board.
That was the case when they were introduced but the qual is more rigorous now, and not a guarantee when facing the board.
YMMV. I've seen at least one turd get hand held through multiple boards until the person finally got qualified.