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I guess it's been decided...
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I wish Chuck Norris was running...
Wait, hold on, do you think his tax plan is good? I'm not trying to start fire here, and don't get me wrong, I like Huckabee a lot, but his tax plan is largely why I'm hesitant to vote for him.
The FairTax? The one that got the greatest spectator reaction in the history of presidential debates? If you listen to most of the people in the media, it is the worst thing since Odouls. Yes...I think that is the most brilliant tax plan assembled. It is extensively researched by the guys with 80Lb brains at Ivy League schools and it checks out. It would be the biggest transfer of power from the government to the people since the Declaration of Independence. All of the candidates are literally screaming and crying about change, but when it comes to taxes, a lot of people for some reason want to keep this elephonkey'd up status quo tax system.
Most of the comments that the media makes, even the guys that I like, are the most incredibly uninformed comments one could ever make. It is clear that they do not understand the idea of a consumption tax. Some common ones:
The idea that it is actually regressive is stupid because people below the poverty line will get a "prebate" every month. "Rich" people will still be paying the lion's share of the taxes, and the "poor" would come out ahead. Go look at the figures. Maybe I'll go find a link later.
The argument by stupid nanny state asses that "we're not gonna get our refund" doesn't even warrant a response.
It is easy for journalists to say that the rate would have to be higher than the proponents of the tax say. That's not true. It's just something that they can research for 10 or 15 minutes and talk about for 5 that makes them sound good. Remember, they have a agenda, too.
My favorite is one journalist who blasted Huckabee for saying that drugs and prostitution and other black market transactions would be taxed. The journalist actually thought that Huckabee meant that the pimps and drug dealers would file taxes with the IRS. How fucking stupid is that? The tax is embedded in goods which means that anything that gets bought with the mony made in an illegal transaction makes the government money that they would not have gotten before from with an income or employment tax.
Basically, it is very easy for the media to demogogue. If they can point out a weak point and talk about it for 3 minutes, then that apparently makes the Fairtax evil. Personally, I want to see the model of how it would affect home sales becase new houses would be taxed where used wouldn't be. Read Neal Boortz's and Congressman Linder's Fairtax Book. Even if you don't like Neal Boortz this book is great gouge. They're also coming out with a book next month called Answering the Critics. It should clear up a lot of the jackassery that's out there right now.
I could go on for a week about it, but just think about it this way:
If America was under the Fairtax/consumption tax system, and some Congressman from Georgia came along and said let's switch to this income tax system with lot's of really complicated rules, unfair loopholes, and tons of bureaucratic red tape (not to mention payroll taxes, inheritance taxes, capital gains taxes, etc), then which one would you choose? Biggest no-brainer on the face of the Earth.
.......Will never happen in a million years people, wake up and smell reality.......
.......Will never happen in a million years people, wake up and smell reality.......
Even though it's pretty much a no-brainer, I tend to half agree with you. I am keeping the faith though that it will sometime in the next 25 years. It certainly will not come to fruition under Huckabee. It does have a remote chance if the socialist Congress continues to underperform and gets evicted, and either Huckabee or another Fairtax supporter takes office in 2012. If he wins this time around, the first two years of his administration is going to be defined by Christian moral issues, housing, and revaluing the dollar. The second two years will be Christian moral issues, figuring where we are on foreign relations and getting reelected. No time for pulling the tax system out of the shitter.
There is so much positive that can come out of this tax structure that I don't understand why anybody who is for a capitalist system can be against this tax structure; especially those preferring our current tax structure over it, unless they do not understand the system, they have been misinformed by the television and newspaper, or most likely both.
I have tried to educate myself on it and I still completely disagree with it. I just don't think it is practical at all. You can commission any study by the people with the most degrees but until I see it actually working in a viable economy, I ain't buying it. Nowhere in the world that has any viable economy tried this and yet you want to experiment with the biggest economy in the world?!
I can respect that position. It is the uninformed babble that comes with all political issues that really bothers me.
I'm not going to try to flip you or anything, but what are your reservations with the plan other than the unknown?
Saw this and thought it was funny, John McCain responding to Chuck Norris' comments about his age.
Why do they always refer to Mac as a "fighter pilot"? he was all Light Attack (Spads, Scooters, SLUFs). Dang reporters don't know any better...
Well now Rambo is supporting John McCain, who'd win in a fight Chuck Norris or Sylvester Stallone? I still say John Wayne could take both if he were alive today.
I've even seen em refer to a Marine Herc driver as a "fighter pilot".