HCS-5 Re-established

[phrogpilot73]

Ok yet another, not knocking it, genuinely confused question... Why would helo's come in for the 'break'?

Umm, to establish spacing and slow down, same as jets?

 

[RHPF]

Fair enough (all). Never seen a helo do anything other than fly towards it's landing spot, come to a hover, and then land before.

 

[busdriver]

running through the dance card vice efficiently moving your section around.

Dudes, TFM is not a goal in and of it self. It's a tool for the flight lead to make his formation look the way it should for a given threat presentation.

 

[Gatordev]

Dudes, TFM is not a goal in and of it self. It's a tool for the flight lead to make his formation look the way it should for a given threat presentation.

I know this, which was exactly my point. One which gets lost on many.

 

[busdriver]

Can't edit posts I guess. Was meant to be in agreement with you.

 

[Gatordev]

Gotcha.

 

[Stearmann4]

I know this, which was exactly my point. One which gets lost on many.

I don't ever remember briefing (or getting briefed) on formation, except maybe a very specific form to get into an LZ or avoid a threat RP inbound. CHK 2 picks a side and each subsequent CHK alternates .25 or less on the TACAN. It tightens up slightly RP inbound, but we can't get that close ass 4+ 47s in a browned out, walled compound isa mess in the best of conditions. We also don't use form lights of any sort, just fly an angle off a tail cone (surpressed). We only tighten up to 1 disk inside the wire...and when we put a 4-ship in a diamond down the center of the AF Academy airfield at 50')

MR-

 

[busdriver]

Stearmann, I'm pretty sure they got it from the AF side of the house, and I'm pretty sure we got the concept from the fighter world. Our normal formation is a two ship and flying further apart than you guys do, more like .5 DME. As an example, if my CHK 2 is falling back near my six, but I want him closer to my 3/9 line, an in place turn (Hook turn) towards 2 will bring him further up. It's not cosmic, it's just a matter of standard terminology. You can do it blacked out, but it's much more difficult to judge aspect and requires more comm.

I'd be a complete mess if you tried it with a four ship, thinking about maintaining control over a four ship spread out that large makes my head hurt.