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Uncle Fester

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Well, there's two types of system geeks: those who are just really into knowing the bleeps and squeaks, and those who use it as a defense mechanism for being a shitty controller. I've known some of the former, more of the latter, unfortunately.
 

Jim123

DD-214 in hand and I'm gonna party like it's 1998
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I have common sense. Hence why I am JOPA for life, and you are not.
Not that anyone asked me, but I would love to see your thoughts on the matter as be required reading at every FRS (helo, f/w). That'll never happen but at least it would ruffle the feathers of

...those who use it as a defense mechanism for being a shitty controller.
The collective harumphing would be entertaining, and

those who are just really into knowing the bleeps and squeaks
would take it in stride anyway.
 

Boomhower

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(no, I'm not looking forward to going back to the RAG as a squadron)
We did it when 113 switched over to the HE2000. It sucked. Fleet guys priorities are different than a RAG instructor's. I say this from an NFO perspective, though. The pilots had it a little easier.

I almost got in a fist fight in the back with the guy doing my pre-stan. A buddy of mine DID get in a fight with the same guy on his STANX. Neither of us was system geeks and the instructor was. He was treating us like RAG students and we kept telling him that, "this shit doesn't matter!"

I won't name the instructor here, but everybody was glad to see him leave the RAG. The guy was a prick. He'll end up being an Admiral someday, though. Guys like that always do.
 

MasterBates

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Yeah.. Now they essentially want pilots to be NFOs on top of driving the bus. I've not seen a syllabus (syllabi? Silly-Bus??) yet, but if I essentially have to do NFO advanced, on top of the pilot shit, I'm gonna be a bit pissed. If they treat me like a SNFO.. I may just throw down and see what happens.

What kills me, is due to timing, I will probably never actually fly an E-2D. But I won't be so close to the end that I will be able to avoid the suckfest.
 

Uncle Fester

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Nobody really knows yet how having a scope up front will work. CRM is the big sticky point in the discussion...sometimes there's just no substitute for leaning over and doing the lookee-pointee at the other guy's scope. "No, idiot, not that guy, that guy! That guy is the lead group!"

There's a conference coming up in Mugu; it's one of the things on the agenda.

If I know the Hummer Pilots Union, though, any attempt to make them become controllers will not end well.
 

MasterBates

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The three NFOs sit side by side for a REASON (vice all three facing forward with individual scopes/panels) or at least I've been told that.

As the "buletproof" Terminal LT/2P of the HPU, I do not like this plan of making me control anything. Being able to see a watered down scope to gain SA I like.
 

HeyJoe

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100807-N-2821G-415 PACIFIC OCEAN (Aug. 7, 2010) An E-2C Hawkeye assigned to the Sun Kings of Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 116 launches off the flight deck of the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72). Abraham Lincoln is underway for a composite training unit exercise (COMPTUEX), which is designed to train the ship, embarked air wing and other units that make up the Abraham Lincoln Strike Group to function as one highly effective fighting force. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Alan Gragg/Released)
 

HeyJoe

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100807-N-3659B-018 PACIFIC OCEAN (Aug. 7, 2010) An E-2C Hawkeye assigned to the Black Eagles of Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 113 launches from the flight deck of the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76) during the Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 14 fly off. The squadrons of CVW-14 are returning to their homeports after training operations with Ronald Reagan in the Pacific Ocean. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Joseph M. Buliavac/Released)
 

HeyJoe

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100801-N-6362C-244 U.S. 5TH FLEET AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY (Aug. 2, 2010) Sailors watch an E2-C Hawkeye assigned to the Seahawks of Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 126 land aboard the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) after flight operations in Afghanistan supporting Operation Enduring Freedom. VFA-37 is deployed as part of the Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group in support of maritime security operations and theater security cooperation efforts in the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Apprentice Tyler Caswell/Released)
 

Malo83

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100807-N-2821G-415 PACIFIC OCEAN (Aug. 7, 2010) An E-2C Hawkeye assigned to the Sun Kings of Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 116 launches off the flight deck of the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72). Abraham Lincoln is underway for a composite training unit exercise (COMPTUEX), which is designed to train the ship, embarked air wing and other units that make up the Abraham Lincoln Strike Group to function as one highly effective fighting force. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Alan Gragg/Released)
Wow! brings back memories of the Fun Kings on the "Top Gun" USS.Ranger and Desert Storm in 91.
 

HeyJoe

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100810-N-6720T-004 PACIFIC OCEAN (Aug. 10, 2010) Aviation Machinist's Mate Airman Shane Hareth, from Seattle, left, and Aviation Machinist's Mate Airman Chase Garrett, from Gloucester, Va., install a variable pitch propeller on an E-2C Hawkeye from the Liberty Bells of Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 115 aboard the aircraft carrier USS George Washington (CVN 73). George Washington, the Navy's only permanently forward-deployed aircraft carrier, is underway helping to ensure security and stability in the western Pacific Ocean. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Adam K. Thomas/Released)
 

HeyJoe

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Wow! brings back memories of the Fun Kings on the "Top Gun" USS.Ranger and Desert Storm in 91.
Aah, but they really earned that title in summer of 2006 when they rivaled the Tomcat squadrons in producing videos

 
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