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Global Warming Conspiracy...?

Random8145

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This could be a fraud, but if so, a damned good one it seems. Or it could be just being blown up to be more than it really is. One of the world's leading climate change alarmist outfits, the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit, had their e-mail system hacked, and now around 61 MB of e-mails and data have been made public, showing what seems to be a degree of manipulation to make climate change look much worse than it really is.

If true, it means many of the leading scientists in this have more of an agenda than thought. Some question the legitimacy of it all because this just seems "to good to be true" of a thing for global warming skeptics, and its right on the verge of Copenhagen. But if it is a fraud, it means someone took the time to fake 61MB worth of e-mails and data.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8370282.stm

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/hadley_hacked

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/...ently-been-hacked-hundreds-of-files-released/

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/20/cru_climate_hack/

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/science/earth/21climate.html

Here is the RealClimate.org response:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/
 

Fog

Old RIOs never die: They just can't fast-erect
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Al Gore (who invented the internet) did it while cruising @ FL 300, alone in his early-stage G-II, eating a steak and on his way to Copenhagen to deliver an address on the imminent destruction facing our planet from Global Warming.
 

nittany03

Recovering NFO. Herder of Programmers.
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Al Gore (who invented the internet) did it while cruising @ FL 300, alone in his early-stage G-II, eating a steak and on his way to Copenhagen to deliver an address on the imminent destruction facing our planet from Global Warming.
Mmm . . . steak . . . :D
 

Schnugg

It's gettin' a bit dramatic 'round here...
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"Nuke a gay baby whale for Jesus."

My favorite bumper sticker of all time...
 

yak52driver

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One of my favorite bumper stickers said 'Alaskans for global warming". Here in Wisconsin I'm all for it!
 

slug

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If true, it means many of the leading scientists in this have more of an agenda than thought. Some question the legitimacy of it all because this just seems "to good to be true" of a thing for global warming skeptics, and its right on the verge of Copenhagen. But if it is a fraud, it means someone took the time to fake 61MB worth of e-mails and data.

Right, so the theory of global warming is debunked by information that was secretly hacked from the computers of evil scientists who are in a global conspiracy to withold the truth from the public.

Seams reasonable.

These scientists are ignoring measured data and creating their own propogandized information, so that, in proving that global warming exists they will be famous and rich? Or maybe just so they can say "I told you so."

Or maybe they walk around their underground lairs with a pinkie dangled on their lips.

There is no conspiracy. Sometimes you guys are worse than Oliver Stone.
 

DukeAndrewJ

Divo without a division
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Right, so the theory of global warming is debunked by information that was secretly hacked from the computers of evil scientists who are in a global conspiracy to withold the truth from the public.

Seams reasonable.

These scientists are ignoring measured data and creating their own propogandized information, so that, in proving that global warming exists they will be famous and rich? Or maybe just so they can say "I told you so."

Or maybe they walk around their underground lairs with a pinkie dangled on their lips.

There is no conspiracy. Sometimes you guys are worse than Oliver Stone.

people will go a long way to protect their egos....and their eggos
 

Herc_Dude

I believe nicotine + caffeine = protein
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There IS a lot of power/control to be had under the pretext of saving the planet from global warning (or is it global cooling ... or just global climate change? Not sure ... What is the title du jour?) ... AND a lot of money to be made. Make no mistake about it.
 

HueyCobra8151

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Eh, seems reasonable to me.

By releasing data which is sympathetic to the need to do more research in your particular area of expertise, you are guaranteeing that you will get additional research grants and more $$. Plus fame.

If I came out tomorrow with some reasonable scientific data showing that we are all in imminent danger, I bet I would get more money to keep researching it.
 

Herc_Dude

I believe nicotine + caffeine = protein
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Eh, seems reasonable to me.

By releasing data which is sympathetic to the need to do more research in your particular area of expertise, you are guaranteeing that you will get additional research grants and more $$. Plus fame.

If I came out tomorrow with some reasonable scientific data showing that we are all in imminent danger, I bet I would get more money to keep researching it.

It's not about additional research, "the debate is over"! (As declared by Algore.)
 
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