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wonderb0iwl

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Doback said:
It’s like 2-3 months for NFOs and SNA something like 9-12 but no one really knows exactly for SNA. If you’re an SNA and want helos though you can class up in like a month potentially
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Is there a reason SNFOs class up sooner? Are there just fewer of them so the pipeline isn’t as backed up?
 
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taxexperts31582

Member
Doback said:
It’s like 2-3 months for NFOs and SNA something like 9-12 but no one really knows exactly for SNA. If you’re an SNA and want helos though you can class up in like a month potentially
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is the 9-12 months wait to start NIFE? or between NIFE and primary? If you want helos, how long do you have to wait from commissioning to beginning NIFE? Thanks a lot!
 
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jointhelocalizer

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pilot
taxexperts31582 said:
is the 9-12 months wait to start NIFE? or between NIFE and primary? If you want helos, how long do you have to wait from commissioning to beginning NIFE? Thanks a lot!
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Getting down to Pensacola to NIFE. If you know you want helos, you could maybe get into the IFT-R program they are pushing and get priority placement. Over to NASC on how they want to select people for that program. That said, go after helos because you are the biggest helo fan since Igor Sikorsky, not because it shortens your time to class up. Nobody is really head over heels about their NASC experience as a stud, but being an ENS in Pensacola is one of the better deals in Naval Aviation. Don't wish it away. You'll get to the grind of Primary/Advanced and the Fleet soon enough.
 
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Jacksa71

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jointhelocalizer said:
Getting down to Pensacola to NIFE. If you know you want helos, you could maybe get into the IFT-R program they are pushing and get priority placement. Over to NASC on how they want to select people for that program. That said, go after helos because you are the biggest helo fan since Igor Sikorsky, not because it shortens your time to class up. Nobody is really head over heels about their NASC experience as a stud, but being an ENS in Pensacola is one of the better deals in Naval Aviation. Don't wish it away. You'll get to the grind of Primary/Advanced and the Fleet soon enough.
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Have you heard NFOs trying to go this route? I’m sure there are some that would take the opportunity if it is there.
 
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jointhelocalizer

Well-Known Member
pilot
Jacksa71 said:
Have you heard NFOs trying to go this route? I’m sure there are some that would take the opportunity if it is there.
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IFT-R is for pilots only. There are NFOs on Navy helicopters. If you are talking about NFO-to-Pilot selectees (as in winged NFO retreading), then you go VFR direct to SNA Primary vice taking a second trip to NASC.
 
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taxexperts31582

Member
jointhelocalizer said:
Getting down to Pensacola to NIFE. If you know you want helos, you could maybe get into the IFT-R program they are pushing and get priority placement. Over to NASC on how they want to select people for that program. That said, go after helos because you are the biggest helo fan since Igor Sikorsky, not because it shortens your time to class up. Nobody is really head over heels about their NASC experience as a stud, but being an ENS in Pensacola is one of the better deals in Naval Aviation. Don't wish it away. You'll get to the grind of Primary/Advanced and the Fleet soon enough.
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Thanks so much. What about SNAJOC? Is there a NFO version of this? Or can SNFOs start NIFE without a JOC before?
 
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jointhelocalizer

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pilot
taxexperts31582 said:
Thanks so much. What about SNAJOC? Is there a NFO version of this? Or can SNFOs start NIFE without a JOC before?
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I went thru NIFE pre SNAJOC, so I can't really comment. It mainly sounds like just a time filler because it looks bad to have a bunch of O-1s not doing anything during the workweek. Regardless, SNFOs would probably take the same course. Aviators and NFOs are pretty much only differentiated by their aircrew duties and how many anchors are on their wings.
 
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JoeBob1788

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taxexperts31582 said:
Thanks so much. What about SNAJOC? Is there a NFO version of this? Or can SNFOs start NIFE without a JOC before?
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SNAJOC is a wait-time time-filler, not a requirement. If scheduled, you are required to go, but SNFOs are not typically completing it because there’s not enough of a wait for us.

I was scheduled for SNAJOC, attended 3 days, then classed up for NIFE. Most other SNFOs didn’t even do that much.
 
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taxexperts31582

Member
JoeBob1788 said:
SNAJOC is a wait-time time-filler, not a requirement. If scheduled, you are required to go, but SNFOs are not typically completing it because there’s not enough of a wait for us.

I was scheduled for SNAJOC, attended 3 days, then classed up for NIFE. Most other SNFOs didn’t even do that much.
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Understood. Based what what you've seen is the "time to wing" right now for SNFOs? Seems like they're moving through quickly?
 
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