The subject was cases, which made your “thanks unvaccinated” comment completely ridiculous. Now you’re changing the subject, and looking ridiculous.
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The vaccinated spread the virus, too. The only thing the unvaccinated are doing is hurting themselves. Filling up the icus with themselves. They aren't "killing people". The virus is doing that. You don't want to talk about masks for obvious reasons.
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Who cares about cases other than you and @SlickAg? And you care about them only because you use it to argue about your precious mask phobia, rather being worried about people actually in the hospital, the ICU, and the morgue. Weird.
Sure, but do you think they are as contagious as an unvaccinated person? You can google on it, but the answer is obvious.
Right back at you. No one is changing the subject. You’ve spent a year and a half talking about how effective masks are. There’s all the data in the world now to show the opposite. I know it’s hard, but you can admit that masks don’t matter. It’s fine.
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Last post...they're not just hurting themselves.
Alabama out of ICU beds amid COVID-19 surge
The president of the Alabama Hospital Association told a local news outlet that as of Tuesday there were 1,568 ICU patients, but only 1,557 beds.
Who cares about cases? Dude, get a grip. You have spent literally a year and half talking about cases. Only NOW have you ever stopped talking about slowing the spread and lockdowns and masks and how effective it would be if everyone just followed these three easy steps. Now you’re just recycling the “but you’re killing grandma!!” argument you’ve also used in the past.
Now the new monster in your closet is the delta variant. How’s Sweden doing with the delta variant? I haven’t heard about it in the papers much. Maybe, just maybe, the way they handled the past year and a half has led to widespread herd immunity. You tell me which country got it right.
Because lots of petty tyrants care about cases. Masks, high vaccination rates, and restrictions apparently don’t help when cases mirror states without those measures. If the vulnerable are vaccinated, cases don’t matter.
He didn't. If you can't add content to the discussion then please hold fire. It would also help if all you guys didn't directly address each other. You are not changing any minds. Good to see the differing evidence and perspectives, but it isn't necessary to directly engage to get those posts out.
So if someone posts about the efficacy of masks (or lack thereof), and then the response is castigating unvaccinated people and blaming them for the spread of the delta variant (even in a state that has had a mask mandate for almost a year and a half)...I mean, yeah it’s all about covid so it fits in with the theme of the thread, but I’d be hard-pressed to say that’s not changing the subject.
I'm glad you responded though. My prediction came (half) true!
Here's an article so I'm "adding content". Vaccines work! I mean, they SHOULD work. They will DEFINITELY work once you get another shot. We're pretty sure about that anyway. It's The Science (TM).
Seriously? Slick posted a graph showing cases spiking in Hawaii then I posted one comparing their case spike to Texas despite vastly different responses. Taxi1 blamed unvaccinated people. I pointed out that Hawaii leads the nation in vaccination rate, so clearly that’s not the key factor in stopping case spikes. He then deflected by bringing up hospitalizations. That’s not adding content, it’s a non sequitur. If he wanted to post a chart about percentage of vaccinations in hospitals on its own, it’s adding content except I don’t think I’ve seen anyone arguing that’s not the case.
George Mason University reverses course on vaccine mandate for Prof, and hopefully students, with natural antibodies. Only problem I see is it seems the length of resistance for natural antibodies can't be predicted as well as for the vaccine. On balance, I prefer this approach.
apnews.com
George Mason Univ. Caves to NCLA’s Lawsuit over Vaccine Mandate, Grants Prof. Medical Exemption
Washington, D.C., Aug. 17, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- The New Civil Liberties Alliance is pleased to announce today that George Mason University (GMU) has granted a medical exemption from its mandatory Covid-19 vaccination policy to NCLA client Todd Zywicki, George Mason University Foundation Professo
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Anyone tracking cardiovascular problems - especially in younger males - as a result of the mRNA vaccine? I have seen different opinions on it, but nothing trustworthy.
I’d take a gander at that article I just posted.George Mason University reverses course on vaccine mandate for Prof, and hopefully students, with natural antibodies. Only problem I see is it seems the length of resistance for natural antibodies can't be predicted as well as for the vaccine. On balance, I prefer this approach.
George Mason Univ. Caves to NCLA’s Lawsuit over Vaccine Mandate, Grants Prof. Medical Exemption
Washington, D.C., Aug. 17, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- The New Civil Liberties Alliance is pleased to announce today that George Mason University (GMU) has granted a medical exemption from its mandatory Covid-19 vaccination policy to NCLA client Todd Zywicki, George Mason University Foundation Professo
With the rise in breakthrough cases and vaccinated people getting hospitalized and dying despite the CDC’s assurance they 100% prevented severe death and illness, along with boosters now being “authorized” starting next month, as Toby Keith would say, they ain't as good as they once was.
Yeah. I have seen that. I was only speaking to length of effective resistance between the two. If you want to start counting the minuscule number of hospitalizations and deaths of break throughs of the vaccine, let's take a look at the number of hospitalizations and deaths of people with natural antibodies. I haven't seen those numbers, if they exist.