Couple of quick TW-5 questions

[Gatordev]

Couple of questions about A-292 for those that are there now...

- Are the T-6s still using 12J? Is it still the hive of activity it was with the Wieners?

- Is everyone at 12J or GZH still using UHF as the primary?

- If the weather is VFR, but not really PA-friendly, are guys still trying to eek out the X with low(er) ceilings at these airports (like we did in the T-34s)?

I'm curious about traffic density if coming through the area, that's why I'm asking. Thanks.

 

[Criminal]

GZH is now primary solo field, so it stays somewhat busy. 12j is pretty busy as well, lots of PPELS. Monroville is also in use but not usually that busy. UHF is what we use, though the actual airport is VHF

 

[wlawr005]

We use everything in 292. GZH is the solo field, which means EVERYONE else is at MVC or 12J. Primary comms are on UHF (PM for freqs) but the CTAF is up VHF at all times for SA and civilian traffic. Generally if WX is low, we'll do PAs VFR on top (no ground reference required).

 

[wlawr005]

Sorry for the split answer; in reference to traffic density, it's gotten better since they opened Barin up to T-6s and more people are starting to use the South MOA (over Barin), Choctaw, and the Gator MOA. However, since the only solo field in is -292, 90% of the Contact training occurs there (re: traffic is EVERYWHERE). Guys are setting up for initial as low as 1200 feet, 6-8 miles outside from the airfields. If you transited <500 and at least 10 miles from the OLFs, you probably won't get a windscreen full of solo orange and white

 

[insanebikerboy]

Generally if WX is low, we'll do PAs VFR on top (no ground reference required).

It's been awhile, but aren't PA's still part of the Contact syllabus (which means you have to see the ground?)

 

[wlawr005]

Yes they are part of the contact syllabus, but there is no requirement for visual reference in our instruction.

 

[RotorHead04]

Yes they are part of the contact syllabus, but there is no requirement for visual reference in our instruction.

Even for spins?

 

[phrogpilot73]

Even for spins?

Instrument spin... Fun...

If I ever become a reserve flight instructor, I definitely want to head to HTs...

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[scoolbubba]

Even for spins?

IIRC, spins weren't authorized below 10000 in the T-6. We would regularly pick up an IFR to get to VFR on top, go do our contact stuff and then come back thru the weather.

 

[wlawr005]

No. Spins require visual reference with the ground, but we don't spin during PAs (unless you dick something up, of course). Spins are prohibited below 10k, and although we could do Aero in the MOA (12-18k), we generally do it in the Pelican working area (6-11k).

 

[Gatordev]

Thanks for the info guys. I knew they changed up a lot of the CR, so I figured there was more in play now (like KMVC and the MOAs).

 

[nittany03]

You really need 10K AGL to get out of a spinning T-6? The Wiener didn't even have an ejection seat, and IIRC, you started the spin at 9K or thereabouts.

 

[samguitar]

The 10k spin deck limit is a PMU programming limit for the sake of the engine.

 

[Gatordev]

The 10k spin deck limit is a PMU programming limit for the sake of the engine.

What does that actually mean in English? Honest question. I doubt the PT6 cares what altitude it's at, but if there's some sort of computer issue, I'm curious to learn.

 

[heynowlookout]

Spins below 10,000 feet MSL are prohibited due to high stresses on the propeller which occur during the spin maneuver with the propeller RPM below 80%. To prevent high stresses from occurring the power management unit(PMU) artificially maintains propeller RPM at 80% with the PCL at IDLE when the aircraft is above 10,000 feet MSL.

The prop cares. No idea why they didn't just program it to maintain 80% to a lower altitude.