BUMED Waiver process

[youth83]

Hey everyone, I'm hoping to get some guidance for BUMED waiver process.

I submitted my OCS package for SWO last month and Navy Recruiting command replied back saying that they could not determine my medical status and requested me to resubmit the medical portion of the package.

I know I submitted it with NPQ due to hypertension and suicidal ideation back in 2017. I went to Sewell's Point Medical Clinic and they gave me medication for my hypertension and released me without limitations. I also went to Portsmouth Medical Center for my Mental health and also got released without limitations and stated "world wide assignable". The provider got all those documents, however still wrote me down as NPQ because I need a waiver for both of them.

I asked the provider how can I get this waiver or what this waiver looks like she said, they don't do that in that clinic and I need to go to my command to submit a waiver. So I went to my command and they did not have a clue what a medical waiver looks like for OCS. They said they have submitted a medical waiver to BUMED before for PFA failures but not for OCS applications and told me to go back to medical. So I went to a local recruiting office and they said since I am not a civilian, I have to go to either medical or my command which I already did. The recruiting office told me they don't care what medical says because in the end, it will be the recruiting command who has the final say if I can join or not.

I was able to get a hold of my friend who is currently in OCS and said he also was diagnosed with hypertension and they just gave him meds. I asked if he had to submit a waiver for hypertension but I never got a replied back. I take it he got very busy. Looking at his package I did not see any waiver for BUMED only for age waiver. So going by what he got, I submitted mine, but did not expect a reply requesting my 2808 and 2807-1 which was already in the package. I suspect that they want to see this medical waiver, but I am running out of options.

So now I'm here looking for guidance. I read some forums about BUMED waivers and got a hold of the Aeromedical Reference and Waiver guide. While it has great stuff, does it apply to me since I am not trying to go SNA or NFO? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all for your time.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Hey everyone, I'm hoping to get some guidance for BUMED waiver process.

I submitted my OCS package for SWO last month and Navy Recruiting command replied back saying that they could not determine my medical status and requested me to resubmit the medical portion of the package.

I know I submitted it with NPQ due to hypertension and suicidal ideation back in 2017. I went to Sewell's Point Medical Clinic and they gave me medication for my hypertension and released me without limitations. I also went to Portsmouth Medical Center for my Mental health and also got released without limitations and stated "world wide assignable". The provider got all those documents, however still wrote me down as NPQ because I need a waiver for both of them.

I asked the provider how can I get this waiver or what this waiver looks like she said, they don't do that in that clinic and I need to go to my command to submit a waiver. So I went to my command and they did not have a clue what a medical waiver looks like for OCS. They said they have submitted a medical waiver to BUMED before for PFA failures but not for OCS applications and told me to go back to medical. So I went to a local recruiting office and they said since I am not a civilian, I have to go to either medical or my command which I already did. The recruiting office told me they don't care what medical says because in the end, it will be the recruiting command who has the final say if I can join or not.

I was able to get a hold of my friend who is currently in OCS and said he also was diagnosed with hypertension and they just gave him meds. I asked if he had to submit a waiver for hypertension but I never got a replied back. I take it he got very busy. Looking at his package I did not see any waiver for BUMED only for age waiver. So going by what he got, I submitted mine, but did not expect a reply requesting my 2808 and 2807-1 which was already in the package. I suspect that they want to see this medical waiver, but I am running out of options.

So now I'm here looking for guidance. I read some forums about BUMED waivers and got a hold of the Aeromedical Reference and Waiver guide. While it has great stuff, does it apply to me since I am not trying to go SNA or NFO? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all for your time.

Contact the NRC processor and they should be able to guide you. The waiver could take some time, especially if they want consults (see a specialist).

How long have you been on AD do you need any other waivers?

 

[Brett327]

Hey everyone, I'm hoping to get some guidance for BUMED waiver process.

I submitted my OCS package for SWO last month and Navy Recruiting command replied back saying that they could not determine my medical status and requested me to resubmit the medical portion of the package.

I know I submitted it with NPQ due to hypertension and suicidal ideation back in 2017. I went to Sewell's Point Medical Clinic and they gave me medication for my hypertension and released me without limitations. I also went to Portsmouth Medical Center for my Mental health and also got released without limitations and stated "world wide assignable". The provider got all those documents, however still wrote me down as NPQ because I need a waiver for both of them.

I asked the provider how can I get this waiver or what this waiver looks like she said, they don't do that in that clinic and I need to go to my command to submit a waiver. So I went to my command and they did not have a clue what a medical waiver looks like for OCS. They said they have submitted a medical waiver to BUMED before for PFA failures but not for OCS applications and told me to go back to medical. So I went to a local recruiting office and they said since I am not a civilian, I have to go to either medical or my command which I already did. The recruiting office told me they don't care what medical says because in the end, it will be the recruiting command who has the final say if I can join or not.

I was able to get a hold of my friend who is currently in OCS and said he also was diagnosed with hypertension and they just gave him meds. I asked if he had to submit a waiver for hypertension but I never got a replied back. I take it he got very busy. Looking at his package I did not see any waiver for BUMED only for age waiver. So going by what he got, I submitted mine, but did not expect a reply requesting my 2808 and 2807-1 which was already in the package. I suspect that they want to see this medical waiver, but I am running out of options.

So now I'm here looking for guidance. I read some forums about BUMED waivers and got a hold of the Aeromedical Reference and Waiver guide. While it has great stuff, does it apply to me since I am not trying to go SNA or NFO? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all for your time.

As a former squadron CO, I’ve gotta say that the history of suicidal ideation concerns me.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

As a former squadron CO, I’ve gotta say that the history of suicidal ideation concerns me.

I will say that concerned me as well, but without knowing the entire story it is hard for me to understand, mainly because during ORSE workups we had been working late and a sailor joking around said to another sailor "if we have to work late again I will shoot myself", unfortunately the out of department heard it, reported it, and the sailor had to talk to the psych doc on board. Lesson learned you don't know how others may take what you say.

 

[youth83]

Contact the NRC processor and they should be able to guide you. The waiver could take some time, especially if they want consults (see a specialist).

How long have you been on AD do you need any other waivers?

Copy all, thank you for that. I already went and seen all the specialists medical have asked me to see. I also have all their recommendations. Just looking to see how to submit all these? Do I submit them with my 2808 and 2807-1?

I'm still in service. I submitted an age waiver for being over 35

 

[youth83]

As a former squadron CO, I’ve gotta say that the history of suicidal ideation concerns me.

As it should. I feel like not many people take it seriously, until its too late. I have been pretty blessed to be in a command that do care for their people but I am not aware that it would put a stigma to those people who stepped forward to get help.

 

[youth83]

I will say that concerned me as well, but without knowing the entire story it is hard for me to understand, mainly because during ORSE workups we had been working late and a sailor joking around said to another sailor "if we have to work late again I will shoot myself", unfortunately the out of department heard it, reported it, and the sailor had to talk to the psych doc on board. Lesson learned you don't know how others may take what you say.

You know my case is not so different. I was watching a commercial about depression and I pretty much answered 3 out of the 5 questions and I thought I should take it seriously. I would say that prozac did not made me feel any different but the counseling portion helped me out a lot. I was able to look at my situation in a different angle and was able to talk to someone how I felt.

 

[Brett327]

As it should. I feel like not many people take it seriously, until its too late. I have been pretty blessed to be in a command that do care for their people but I am not aware that it would put a stigma to those people who stepped forward to get help.

There are a whole host of physiological standards one must meet for certain jobs. Mental health is just one of those. Meeting those standards isn't stigmatizing any more than not meeting sitting height anthro standards are stigmatizing tall people. Standards are a means of risk reduction. This prevents us from putting people into situations they can't handle, or that risk a relapse of the original illness.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Copy all, thank you for that. I already went and seen all the specialists medical have asked me to see. I also have all their recommendations. Just looking to see how to submit all these? Do I submit them with my 2808 and 2807-1?

I'm still in service. I submitted an age waiver for being over 35

Contact the NRC processor Paul Celestin and he will give you guidance.

how much TIS do you have?

 

[exNavyOffRec]

There are a whole host of physiological standards one must meet for certain jobs. Mental health is just one of those. Meeting those standards isn't stigmatizing any more than not meeting sitting height anthro standards are stigmatizing tall people. Standards are a means of risk reduction. This prevents us from putting people into situations they can't handle, or that risk a relapse of the original illness.

I wish people would understand this, it seems when people talk about abilities and minimizing risk too often you get the "that's not fair" flag thrown.

 

[Brett327]

I wish people would understand this, it seems when people talk about abilities and minimizing risk too often you get the "that's not fair" flag thrown.

Life rarely is.

 

[youth83]

Contact the NRC processor Paul Celestin and he will give you guidance.

how much TIS do you have?

Thank you. I actually have been talking with Mr. Paul. I did not realized he is the processor. He said they take care of the waiver within Recruit Command. So I was looking for information for no reason. That's probably what confused a lot of the people in my command and medical.

I have 19 years TIS. Thank you for your help