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Brownwater/Riverine
- Thread starter tshort
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Bullshit...we have so many JOs, the subpar ones have jobs made up for them to do.
Disclaimer: My info is secondhand/based on observation only.
You need an EOOW letter to do anything out of the traditional SWO pipeline, and people will tell you you're killing your longterm SWO career.
The EOOW letter is difficult to get because it takes most people long enough to qualify SWO, and to make things tougher you need to get the EOOW letter before or be expected to get it by your command before you're up for new orders.
I've met a few guys who are in the RIVRONs...luck and timing had a lot to do with it.
In addition, they need to be decent swimmers and in good shape(good PRT scores). That alone could cut 50% of SWO JOs.
I've heard the same thing from some higher-ups in the NECC chain of command. They said it was a second tour gig and while you may hinder your chances at commanding a destroyer, they're trying to make it work so that when the time comes you can be put in for selection as a RIVRON CO.
Basically, responsibility for overseeing engineering plant operation underway.
That requires detailed knowledge of the engineering systems and memorization of standardized procedures.
OK, but there are three RIVRONs in the entire Navy...
As one captain said, it's a new command and there are still some kinks to work out.
BlackBearHockey
go blue...
Why is it a "career killer?" Aren't you the skipper of one of the ships as an LT? You'd think that type of billet would be great for advancement, plus the chances of the RIVRON boats firing some weapons... seems like a great place to hone some leadership while young(ish?) in the career.
The SWO community traditionally doesn't care for anything outside of the "Big Gray Underway" CRUDES pipeline, career-wise, and RIVRON's never really going to be a big enough community to make it a mainstream SWO job. It's going to fall into the same category as ACUs - "cool, but not career enhancing".
I kinda doubt that the officers are actually driving the boats, Apocalypse Now-style; I say this under correction, but I'd imagine that would be the jealously guarded preserve of the squadron Craftmasters, and maybe they'll let LTJG Bob come along once in a while..but don't touch anything, sir.
PCs were on the ragged edge of respectability when I was a Shoe, but that was (1) seven years ago, and (2) when they were part of SpecWar, not the regular Surface Navy like now. Never hurts to be in command, unless you fuck it away, but PCs are still "oddball" boats and always seemed to be broke down.
I kinda doubt that the officers are actually driving the boats, Apocalypse Now-style; I say this under correction, but I'd imagine that would be the jealously guarded preserve of the squadron Craftmasters, and maybe they'll let LTJG Bob come along once in a while..but don't touch anything, sir.
PCs were on the ragged edge of respectability when I was a Shoe, but that was (1) seven years ago, and (2) when they were part of SpecWar, not the regular Surface Navy like now. Never hurts to be in command, unless you fuck it away, but PCs are still "oddball" boats and always seemed to be broke down.