Range NCOs (and maybe range control officers) wear them. They are the only ones authorized in the Corps.Apparently Marines sport the pith too? View attachment 25997
Range NCOs (and maybe range control officers) wear them. They are the only ones authorized in the Corps.Apparently Marines sport the pith too? View attachment 25997
I definitely did this on more than one occasion and would do it again in a heartbeat. Wet khakis smell like soggy dog food and it’s not comfortableI wore the All Weather Coat once because it was raining cats and dogs. I stood out like a sore thumb and now it's buried at the bottom of one of my seabags next to my issued black boots.
?♂️?♂️ Why do some instructors have to be stupid? The regs specify Oxfords, not shitty Oxfords made by Bates.Brown shoes were mandatory, but some people got reprimanded for wearing non-Bates make.
Welcome to the proud tradition of the sketchy boat 'stache.Mustaches are shady...I got yelled at for one in API but here it seems like a CQ tradition.
I reiterate what's been said elsewhere in the thread. If you (collective studentry) are afraid wearing a jacket is going to cause you to attrite, study harder. And if your instructors are giving you a hard time for wearing gear you've been issued, they're being assholes. Not much you can do about that, granted, but they're still being assholes.Nobody without wings wears the G-1. It was verboten by unwritten regs or consensus I guess.
EDIT: Some places don't like you wearing the Nomex Fleece even if it's what you were issued. Ask around.
Wet Khaki is distinctive! Definitely gives me flashbacks to OCS.I definitely did this on more than one occasion and would do it again in a heartbeat. Wet khakis smell like soggy dog food and it’s not comfortable
I don't see the jacket as a bad juju thing, to me it's more like the prize at the end of a very long and very hard box of cereal.I reiterate what's been said elsewhere in the thread. If you (collective studentry) are afraid wearing a jacket is going to cause you to attrite, study harder. And if your instructors are giving you a hard time for wearing gear you've been issued, they're being assholes. Not much you can do about that, granted, but they're still being assholes.
The prize at the end is WINGS.Wet Khaki is distinctive! Definitely gives me flashbacks to OCS.
I don't see the jacket as a bad juju thing, to me it's more like the prize at the end of a very long and very hard box of cereal.
I don't see the jacket as a bad juju thing, to me it's more like the prize at the end of a very long and very hard box of cereal.
from an Intermediate/Advanced student's perspective:
When I was at A-pool/API in 2018 you checked in with Summer Whites or SDBs depending on the season like normal, after which you wore Khakis. The Ikes were worn by most people in cold weather. Some wore dips in covers and some didn't. Brown shoes were mandatory, but some people got reprimanded for wearing non-Bates make. Some people wore SWOters too, but the only gal I remember clearly that wore one was attrited and is likely a shoe now (Dress like a SWO...). I wore the All Weather Coat once because it was raining cats and dogs. I stood out like a sore thumb and now it's buried at the bottom of one of my seabags next to my issued black boots. Combo cover was reserved for dress uniforms. Only attrites and DORs wore NWUs.
At Primary Pool in 2019 you mustered in Flight Suits except for every last Friday of the month which was in Khakis. Nobody really wore the cover dip there. Green flight suits were the only ones authorized but I hear that's changed under new management. VT SDO watchstanders were officially supposed to wear Khakis during the week and could wear either Khakis or NWUs on the weekend. Most people just wore NWUs regardless. Some people started wearing brown flight boots with NWUs around this time too but I don't know if that is in regs or not. A buddy of mine checked out in a SWOter and he was summarily told to "never wear that thing again". Once again attrites and DORs at the Wing wore NWUs.
At Advanced it seems like it's Flight Suits for everything unless you're checking in/out or being punished for being dumb, in which case you show up in Khakis.
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Generally,
I prefer to be Mr. Pags' "grey man student" and not give anybody unnecessary rope to hang myself with.
- Shine your shoes. It makes you stand out in a good way.
- Zip your zippers and don't wear anything funkier on your shoulder than a college patch. If it's cold wear your Nomex. No ballcaps.
- Mustaches are shady...I got yelled at for one in API but here it seems like a CQ tradition.
- Nobody without wings wears the G-1. It was verboten by unwritten regs or consensus I guess.
- EDIT: Some places don't like you wearing the Nomex Fleece even if it's what you were issued. Ask around.
?♂️?♂️ Why do some instructors have to be stupid? The regs specify Oxfords, not shitty Oxfords made by Bates.
Welcome to the proud tradition of the sketchy boat 'stache.
I reiterate what's been said elsewhere in the thread. If you (collective studentry) are afraid wearing a jacket is going to cause you to attrite, study harder. And if your instructors are giving you a hard time for wearing gear you've been issued, they're being assholes. Not much you can do about that, granted, but they're still being assholes.
Why are the instructors and leadership allowing civilian admin staff to do that, then? We shouldn't expect civilians to supervise JOs.To be fair to the instructors, the BS about uniforms in a-pool and API comes from the civilian admin staff.