AT-6 excluded from Light Attack Aircraft

[Criminal]

Buying either platform would be a great idea. We would save money on multiple fronts including a/c price and shortened training pipelines. I agree that requirement creep will set in and sky rocket the cost. The "stars" and politicians will probably want to turn the AT-6 into a F-16, or make it stealth

On a serious note, there needs to be a name change on the Super Tucano... Thats just stupid

 

[helolumpy]

On a serious note, there needs to be a name change on the Super Tucano.

What, you don't fear the Tucan?

 

[OSUbeaver]

As if our stacks aren't crazy enough over there...can you imagine some afghan dude checking in with the warden? How awesome...

The guy in this poster must have been at the controls of the Super Tucano in the shoot down video. That took FOREVER. Granted, I have zero air to air experience, but I would hope that if it was part of my job I'd be better at it than that guy was, given the target was relatively large, slow and not maneuvering.

 

[Gatordev]

The guy in this poster must have been at the controls of the Super Tucano in the shoot down video. That took FOREVER. Granted, I have zero air to air experience, but I would hope that if it was part of my job I'd be better at it than that guy was, given the target was relatively large, slow and not maneuvering.

There's a little more going on there than what you see, as well. The operation actually is coordinated through JIATF, so comms have to go through Key West (and Colombia) and back again. The rider can talk to the Super T, but there's other items on the checklist that are going down. Plus the ISR asset has to talk on the Super T (after getting permission through JIATF...who gets permission through Colombia), but has to relay through the interpreter. So if the target maneuvers, they have to, again, relay through the rider for a talk on if the Super T goes blind.

There's actually a whole desk dedicated to this mission in JIATF. It's not very busy nowadays, in large part because of the many cases similar to the video (with similar results) that occurred when the program came online. Now no one wants to get shot down so they come up with other methods.

 

[ryan1234]

In light of recent news, it will be interesting to see the AF's next step with the SuperT. They've proposed cutting five A-10 squadrons and placing a larger emphasis on multi-role platforms. Will the SuperT fill a CAS/ISR multi-role? Or will it go the way of the C-27J?

Any word of the those Hornets to Brazil? Some interesting politics.

 

[Criminal]

So, is there any good reason why "they" don't want to do this or are they going ahead with it?

 

[helolumpy]

So, is there any good reason why "they" don't want to do this or are they going ahead with it?

Who is "they" you speak of? The Air Force? The USGov't?

 

[Criminal]

Gov.... Just seems in an economic crisis we would be grabbin at every option to save some $$ while still accomplishing the mission. Is the MC on board with the SuperT as well?

 

[Gatordev]

Gov.... Just seems in an economic crisis we would be grabbin at every option to save some $$ while still accomplishing the mission. Is the MC on board with the SuperT as well?

But if the widget doesn't fit the requirement or can't meet the mission, why would we want to buy it? Just to throw money at a contractor? We do that enough and waste plenty that way already.

 

[Recovering LSO]

I've seen some Navy IPs wearing that patch as well... just sayin

anything to make 'em selves feel better...about themselves

 

[Recovering LSO]

Why build an AT-6-type when an F-15E can do a similar mission?

do the fuselages of AT-6's rip apart at high IMN....?

 

[Jim123]

I'd be the guy who'd look for a Super T patch to wear, but only to mock the AT-6 patch wannabes wearers. Or maybe an Air Tractor patch.

Never heard of an HT dude just randomly wearing a Kiowa patch or a VT-J guy with a Hawk 200 patch (the variant that carries real missiles...). Was there ever an armed King Air so the multiengine VT guys can join in my notional dogpile?

 

[Gatordev]

I'd be the guy who'd look for a Super T patch to wear, but only to mock the AT-6 patch wannabes wearers. Or maybe an Air Tractor patch.

Never heard of an HT dude just randomly wearing a Kiowa patch or a VT-J guy with a Hawk 200 patch (the variant that carries real missiles...). Was there ever an armed King Air so the multiengine VT guys can join in my notional dogpile?

I wear DAP patches all the time. What? I fly a -60, the 160th flies the -60, it's pretty much the same thing, right?

 

[helolumpy]

I wear DAP patches all the time. What? I fly a -60, the 160th flies the -60, it's pretty much the same thing, right?

You're better than them. You have a radar!!

They should wear a LAMPS patch!!

 

[Gatordev]

You're better than them. You have a radar!!

They should wear a LAMPS patch!!

Ugh. Kill yourself. Smiles, of course.