Army and Navy work together...Great pic

[HeyJoe]

I remember seeing about a year back a picture of an Apache landing on an anphib. It was on navy.mil but I cant seem to find it again.

More like 3 years ago

050201-N-6019M-001 Atlantic Ocean (Feb. 1, 2005) - A U.S. Army AH-64 Apache helicopter prepares to launch from the flight deck aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Nassau (LHA 4) during Joint Shipboard Weapons and Ordnance (JSWORD) training. The JSWORD exercise provided an excellent opportunity for Navy and Army ordnance personnel to work together in a joint training environment. The AH-64 Apache is a twin-engine, four bladed, multi-mission attack helicopter designed as a highly stable aerial weapons-delivery platform. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 1st Class Brian McFadden (RELEASED)

 

[Stearmann4]

Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Does anyone know of a special ops type squadron of Apaches the Army has? I feel like a retard right now because I can't remember much of it...

Don't feel like a retard. You were a victim of an active imagination. There's only one spec ops squadron in the Army, and we've never had AH-64s of any type. Nor do we ever get public support packages, visit schools, etc. (I do "target" my 1st graders school at 200'/140kts once in awhile, but the principal is a patriot) I'm sure the Apache pilot you met watched a spec ops unit return at sunrise, or got vectored around a ROZ, or maybe even got tasked to come in and "clean" up after we exfilled. Which obviously makes him a special ops pilot.

Sorry about the sarcasm. Ya' hear it all the time in the chow hall...

 

[phrogpilot73]

... got vectored around a ROZ ... Which obviously makes him a special ops pilot.

Woohoo! I'm a spec ops pilot! You guys draw those ROZ's pretty big too... Uncle Sam's Misguided Children decided to do an operation kicking off the same day as you guys were doing a big raid. What a PITA. I suggested that we slide to the right one day, but NOOO....

 

[Stearmann4]

Phrog,

Not to be gratuitous, but...we've requested Huey and/or Cobra escorts on occasion, but we will never, ever fly in the same formation with an OH-58 or Apache. So, you could claim some insider knowledge.

Sorry bout' the big ROZs, we take up alot of space...

 

[phrogpilot73]

Not to be gratuitous, but...we've requested Huey and/or Cobra escorts on occasion, but we will never, ever fly in the same formation with an OH-58 or Apache. So, you could claim some insider knowledge.

Sorry bout' the big ROZs, we take up a lot of space...

Well what do you know, you learn something new every day. I'm curious, is it because of the difference in tactical employment of USMC and Army rotary wing assets? (i.e. we train to attached/detached escort, they don't) Or is it something else? I understand if you can't quite say...

I understood the size of the ROZ once you guys showed up. I don't think I've seen that many helos outside of an air show.

 

[Stearmann4]

For whatever reason, we operate so doctrinally different than the regular Army that it doesn't usually lend itself to intergration...without a long, painful train up and rehearsal which we rarely have the oportunity to do. Not so much the 58s, but the 64s...what a mess.

 

[DanMa1156]

To be honest, I don't recall what helicopter they flew... I just remembered them being armed with guns and rockets... Whatever, I still feel retarded. My bad.

 

[Stearmann4]

We operate so doctrinally different than the regular Army that it doesn't usually lend itself to intergration.

Example: When I brief echelon right, "100' AGL (because other guns are 200 and above), 1 disc separation at the RP (IP), put rounds on spot X at this time" It has to occur exactly in that sequence and place. 10 different layers of actions are built on it. There's no room for "It was too dusty, I had to go-around, or my favorite was "it's too hard to fly off you" or "you didn't brief that part." Anyway, you get the idea. No-fail missions take a different mentality. Marines are much like Rangers in that if you brief correctly, you will get the exact result you want...and violently at that.

I've had 64 guys in training that "didn't feel comfortable" so they went and did their own thing at their own altitude blocks. At the debrief they said they didn't have enough information so they wanted to hang back. Take off isn't the time to realize your confused.

 

[insanebikerboy]

To be honest, I don't recall what helicopter they flew... I just remembered them being armed with guns and rockets... Whatever, I still feel retarded. My bad.

It's ok, we still love you. Did you forget your padded helmet again? :icon_tong

 

[skidkid]

I've had 64 guys in training that "didn't feel comfortable" so they went and did their own thing at their own altitude blocks. At the debrief they said they didn't have enough information so they wanted to hang back. Take off isn't the time to realize your confused.

They were clearly not beaten enough growing up, oh well off to devour some 1stLts.

 

[hscs]

Concur on the -64s -- a couple almost missed their TOT and blew an entire mission for us.