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Another new set of Hookers inbound
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danpass
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RadicalDude
Social Justice Warlord
Wait til your first asymm shot...
Hope not, that has been fatal... In 1960 on RANGER, I saw an A-4 catshot with one full & one empty drop tank (2000# asymm). Nearly completed a roll of 360 deg. when it hit the water. No ejection/chute/or pilot recovery (pre-0'/0 seat).
BzB
RadicalDude
Social Justice Warlord
Nowadays asymmetric shots are authorized. It adds quite a bit of smack to your stroke, if you will. Seen upwards of 160 in the HUD repeater going off the bow.
Was going to make a joke, but this one's too easy.
Roger "Smack". The A-4 max-gross tanker cat launch (full AR store + 2 300 gl. drops) = 170 kts ind. end speed, <5 kt. excess. That was a definite tooth-rattling "Smack"!
BzB
For the uninformed, what's an "asymmetric shot"?
When you are catapulted carrying stores/fuel loads that are heavier one one wing than the other. It's a configuration that was avoided back in the day (for A-4s at least). Evidently, it is allowed today under certain controlled conditions.
The circumstances concerning the fatal A-4 accident I described above, was a day carqual... requiring fuel 4000# internal, empty wing drop tanks. Through fueling crew error, one drop was fueled to 2000#, the other remained empty. Pilot preflight always included popping each drop filler cap to visually ascertain full/empty. Pilot evidently did not check. As a result, the cat shot steam setting setting was for a 15000# GW, for a 17000# GW aircraft. Had the extra 2000# been evenly distributed, the excess end speed (10-12 kt for carqual) would have covered the excess 2000# and launched slowly but recoverable. Since it was 2000# asymmetrical, the aircraft immediately rolled into the heavy wing off the cat, and even w/ full stick deflection... was unrecoverable.
* I am surprised that, to my knowledge, they haven't come up with some form of a heavy truck-type scale behind each cat, to give an exact 'real time' gross weight to our beloved Shooter, or have I missed something?
BzB
Please…no more "bright ideas" (e.g., "cost growth") for the Ford Class…* I am surprised that, to my knowledge, they haven't come up with some form of a heavy truck-type scale behind each cat, to give an exact 'real time' gross weight to our beloved Shooter, or have I missed something?
Lol, I'm in the BRIGHT IDEA Dept, funding is some other Dude's bailiwick!Please…no more "bright ideas" (e.g., "cost growth") for the Ford Class…
BzB
Sadly, there are LEGIONS of folks who think EXACTLY that way…Lol, I'm in the BRIGHT IDEA Dept, funding is some other Dude's bailiwick!
BzB
If I understand it correctly, it won't be needed for the new electromechanical catapults. They will recognize the acceleration rate and adjust power to provide the same end speed regardless of weight.
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