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Another nail in the coffin of Old-School Naval Avaition..

HueyHornet75

Registered User
pilot
2 piece flight suits, eh? I'm sure the Marine Corps will see that....never?
2 sleeve rolls, green shirt. Green suits winter, tan suits summer. right side shoulder patch (WTI or squadron type). simplicity is king sometimes...yet no bag off base is the party line...glad I don't live near an MC base cuz I can be as nasty as I wanna be.
 

Pags

N/A
pilot
2 piece flight suits, eh? I'm sure the Marine Corps will see that....never?
2 sleeve rolls, green shirt. Green suits winter, tan suits summer. right side shoulder patch (WTI or squadron type). simplicity is king sometimes...yet no bag off base is the party line...glad I don't live near an MC base cuz I can be as nasty as I wanna be.

HMX-1 was apparently wearing them right along with my squadron for the test.
 

Catmando

Keep your knots up.
pilot
Super Moderator
Contributor
Two piece flight suits? Nothing new under the sun.

2piece.jpg
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
..glad I don't live near an MC base cuz I can be as nasty as I wanna be.

Must be that high level of professionalism they instilled in you as a skid guy.

I've heard they're way higher quality than lowly -46 or plopter pilots....
 

Floppy_D

I am the hunted
HueyHornet75 said:
cuz I can be as nasty as I wanna be.

Until I call Tascosa, Amarillo High, Caprock and Palo Duro and tell the chubby chicks you're wearing the new two-piece bacon suit. Where's your god now? :D

p.s. I miss Amarillo.
 

HueyHornet75

Registered User
pilot
nice work phrog. since I work with plopter pilots, we get to all be nasty together. hugs for everyone!
as for the high school talent, Floppy...Chick Fil A on coulter is a dangerous place come lunchtime...dirty old men!
 

Floppy_D

I am the hunted
Hell yeah, it is. At least they have their ages on their nametags; it keeps Chris Hansen off my ass.
 

1rotorhead

Registered User
pilot
All I want to know is where can we wear the "Tactics is for homos" patch? I don't want to fucking HEAR anything about the word from homo, whoever is already typing a response!

Guess you should wear two of the "tactics is for homos" patches. Keep it real!
 

HueyHornet75

Registered User
pilot
the graduate level tactics guys will wear their required patch on the right, and the "you must respect my authoritor!!" patch on the left. just in case they walk into the room left shoulder first, vice right.
 

BusyBee604

St. Francis/Hugh Hefner Combo!
pilot
Super Moderator
Contributor
2-Pc Combat Suit

Two piece flight suits? Nothing new under the sun.

2piece.jpg

Yeah Cat, our 2 A-4 Squadrons (VA55/VA-146) also wore 2-piece Marine Fatigues w/ black collar rank insignia, black wings & name tags & olive web belt w/ black buckle. In the early days '66-'67, CAG felt this was the way to go as the Jungle Cammies were unknown at that time, Different Air Wings dictated there own preference for combat flight suits.

No fire protection but WTH, don't catch on fire! :hot_animaI did, but luckily, it trailed behind me...
BzB
 

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A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
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Contributor

GREAT PIX !!!

And that's the way we used to do it ... lightweight green nomex bags (some w/ the HUGE white nametags), orange bags, Army 2-piece, and the occasional tan bag (usually cotton in the ol' days and 'officially' frowned upon) ... basically whatever you wanted to wear ... sometimes dictated by the mission, the locale, and/or the WX for that given day ...

I had beaucoup green nomex (lightweight) and the 'replacement' OD nomex (never liked it as well), the orange nomex, and an Army 2-piece ... and when I got to the Reserves, I managed to barter/trade for a Navy Blue nomex, a tan nomex, and a 'cherry red' nomex. Always something available in the ol' days for the discerning Naval Aviator to be nattily attired in ... :)

p.s. ... the guy on the rear-right looks very familiar.
 

BusyBee604

St. Francis/Hugh Hefner Combo!
pilot
Super Moderator
Contributor
A4s...

p.s. ... the guy on the rear-right looks very familiar. [/B]

The Dude on the rear right (standing to my left), is the late CDR (LT in the pic) Vance Schufeldt. Saw his name on an internet USNA Memorial site saying he had passed away in the late-70s, with no info as to how he had died??? A Canoe U. grad around '63, he was an RP of mine when I was IP in VA-125. He was a fine gent, and outstanding stick. His combat Sqdn was VA-163 and he made his name in the successful delivery of SHRIKE & the then new WALLEYE TV Guided Missiles. When we both reported to VA-44 A-4 RAG at Cecil Field in '68, I became Weps Training, and Vance was assigned as my Asst. in Shrike/Walleye Delivery. Everyone who knew figured he would one day wear stars. RIP Vance.:icon_zbee
BzB
 

Swanee

Cereal Killer
pilot
None
Contributor
The Dude on the rear right (standing to my left), is the late CDR (LT in the pic) Vance Schufeldt. Saw his name on an internet USNA Memorial site saying he had passed away in the late-70s, with no info as to how he had died??? A Canoe U. grad around '63, he was an RP of mine when I was IP in VA-125. He was a fine gent, and outstanding stick. His combat Sqdn was VA-163 and he made his name in the successful delivery of SHRIKE & the then new WALLEYE TV Guided Missiles. When we both reported to VA-44 A-4 RAG at Cecil Field in '68, I became Weps Training, and Vance was assigned as my Asst. in Shrike/Walleye Delivery. Everyone who knew figured he would one day wear stars. RIP Vance.:icon_zbee
BzB


A Silver Star and three DFCs. Wow. Sounds like he was one hell of a pilot.
 

insanebikerboy

Internet killed the television star
pilot
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Contributor
Two piece flight suit message. Addresses Marine garrison cap for wear with it so would follow that Marines can wear the two piece.

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/FIXED WING NON-EJECTION SEAT PILOTS AND AIRCREW OF THE AVAILABILITY
/TO PURCHASE AND WEAR THE DRIFIRE, NAVY, TWO PIECE FLIGHT SUIT AND
/COMBAT SHIRT AND THE MASSIF COMBAT SHIRT.//
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PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT (CLOTHING), DTD 01 MAR 2010.
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LIST OF FLIGHT SUITS FOR ROTARY WING AND FIXED WING NON-EJECTION
SEAT PILOTS AND AIRCREW.
2. REF (A), WAS SUBMITTED REQUESTING A NAVY TWO PIECE FLIGHT SUIT
TO REPLACE THE ARMY'S OBSOLETE IABDU TWO PIECE FLIGHT SUIT WHICH HAD
PREVIOUSLY BEEN AUTHORIZED.
3. THE FLIGHT SUIT ENSEMBLE CONSISTS OF THE TWO PIECE JACKET AND
PANT AS WELL AS A COMBAT SHIRT THAT CAN BE WORN IN LIEU OF THE
JACKET TO HELP RELIEVE SOME OF THE THERMAL BURDEN WHEN WEARING THE
SURVIVAL VEST, ARMOR AND SURVIVAL EQUIPMENT.
4. WEAR POLICY. THE TWO PIECE FLIGHT SUIT AND COMBAT SHIRT ARE
CONSIDERED ORGANIZATIONAL EQUIPMENT AND IS INTENDED AS AN OPTIONAL,
SUITABLE REPLACEMENT FOR THE CWU-27/P AND SHALL BE WORN IN
ACCORDANCE WITH REF (D), CHAPTER 6, PARAGRAPH 8603 AND ALL
APPLICABLE NAVADMIN'S RELEASED BY THE UNIFORM BOARD. COMNAVFOR
RETAINS OVERALL APPROVAL AUTHORITY FOR THE TWO PIECE FLIGHT SUIT
WEAR IN THEIR RESPECTIVE AREA OF OPERATIONS. THE FOLLOWING ARE
GUIDELINES FOR THE CONFIGURATION OF THE FLIGHT SUIT ENSEMBLE:
A) HEADGEAR FOR STATESIDE, NON-COMBAT DUTY:
1. NAVY AIRCREW: E7 AND ABOVE SHALL WEAR THE KHAKI GARRISON
CAP WITH APPROPRIATE INSIGNIA AND E1-E6 SHALL WEAR THE BLACK SERVICE
GARRISON CAP WITH THE FLIGHT SUIT. BALL CAPS CAN BE WORN AS PER REF
(D) AND APPLICABLE NAVADMIN'S.
2. MARINE CORPS AIRCREW: AIRCREW SHALL WEAR THE GREEN SOFT
GARRISON CAP.
B) HEADGEAR FOR DEPLOYED COMBAT: AT THE DISCRETION OF THE AREA
COMMANDER.
C) BOOTS: ANY APPROVED FLIGHT BOOTS MAY BE WORN.
D) BELT:
1. NAVY
A. KHAKI WEB/RIGGERS BELT
B. LONDON BRIDGE TRADING RIGGER'S BELT, PART NO.
LBT0612A FIRE RETARDANT RIGGERS BELT OR LBT0612C
RIGGERS BELT, OR EQUIVALENT RIGGERS BELT.
2. MARINE CORPS
A. KHAKI WEB/RIGGERS BELT
B. AUTHORIZED COLORED MCMAP BELT, TAN, GREY, GREEN,
BROWN OR BLACK.
E) T-SHIRT: ANY AUTHORIZED T-SHIRT, COLOR DETERMINED BY
COMMANDING OFFICER/OIC.
F) COMBAT SHIRT: SHALL BE WORN ONLY WHEN PERFORMING FLYING
OPERATIONS, FLIGHT LINE DUTIES, FLIGHT RELATED DUTIES AND MEALS IN
ASSOCIATION WITH FLYING DUTIES. IT WILL NOT BE WORN TO EXCHANGES,
NON-FLIGHT RELATED FACILITIES, OFF BASE OR DURING TRAVEL TO AND FROM
THE WORK CENTER. THE COMBAT SHIRT DOES NOT HAVE A VELCRO PATCH FOR
THE NAME TAG ON THE CHEST, SO THE NAME TAG SHALL BE WORN ON THE LEFT
SLEEVE OF THE COMBAT SHIRT.
G) TROUSERS: DO NOT BLOUSE OR TUCK IN TO FLIGHT BOOTS.
H) FLIGHT SUIT/COMBAT SHIRT INSIGNIA/PATCHES:
1. FLIGHT SUIT TOP SHALL BE CONFIGURED IAW REF (D).
2. COMBAT SHIRT SHALL BE CONFIGURED IAW REF (D). WITH THE
FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS OF INSIGNIA/PATCH LOCATION:
A. PATCHES, INSIGNIA AND VELCRO SHALL BE SEWN ON TO THE
POCKET/SLEEVES OF THE COMBAT SHIRT ONLY; NOTHING SHOULD
BE SEWN TO THE FABRIC ON THE BODY OF THE COMBAT SHIRT.
B. THE NAME TAG SHALL BE LOCATED ON THE LEFT SLEEVE
BELOW THE U.S. FLAG AND THE COMMAND/UNIT PATCH SHALL
BE LOCATED ON THE RIGHT SLEEVE POCKET.
5. MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT OF THESE COMMERCIAL OFF THE SHELF (COTS)
GARMENTS WILL BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH REF (B).
6. PROCUREMENT. THE FOLLOWING ARE THE APPROVED GARMENTS THAT CAN
BE OBTAINED VIA OPEN PURCHASE DIRECTLY FROM THE MANUFACTURER, VIA
THE GSA ADVANTAGE WEBSITE OR FROM ONE OF THE DIRECT VENDORS THAT THE
MANUFACTURERS USE AS OUTLINED BELOW. THE TWO PIECE FLIGHT SUIT AND
COMBAT SHIRT ARE CONSIDERED ORGANIZATIONAL EQUIPMENT AND IS INTENDED
AS AN OPTIONAL, SUITABLE REPLACEMENT FOR THE CWU-27/P ITEM NUMBERS
A.30, A.31, A.32 AS LISTED IN REF (C). THERE IS A MILITARY DISCOUNT
FOR THE GARMENTS, DO NOT PAY RETAIL PRICES:
A) COMPANY: DRIFIRE, WWW.DRIFIRE.COM
1. AVAILABLE DIRECTLY FROM THE MANUFACTURER OR FROM DIRECT
VENDORS: SOURCE ONE: RANDY WEBB - (561) 296-0520 AND
ADS: KARA SWENSON (757) 965-836.
2. GARMENT PART/STYLE NUMBER: TWO PIECE FLIGHT SUIT: STYLE
NAVY FLIGHT SUIT, PHOENIX 1, COLOR KHAKI P1.
COMBAT SHIRT: NAVY COMBAT SHIRT, KHAKI P1 COLOR.
3. SIZES ARE AVAILABLE IN REF (B).
B) COMPANY: MASSIF MOUNTAIN GEAR INC, WWW.MASSIF.COM
1. AVAILABLE DIRECTLY FROM THE MANUFACTURER, THE GSA
ADVANTAGE WEBSITE AND DIRECT VENDOR ADS: KARA SWENSON
(757) 965-8361.
2. GARMENT PART/STYLE NUMBER: NAVY COMBAT SHIRT, COLOR
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7. THIS MESSAGE IS THE TWELFTH IN A SERIES OF AIRCREW SYSTEMS
ADVISORIES (ASA'S) TO BE RELEASED IN FY-10.
8. ASA'S ARE GENERAL INFORMATION MESSAGES DESIGNED TO INFORM FLEET
MAINTAINERS AND USERS OF CHANGES TO FLIGHT EQUIPMENT, PUBLICATIONS
AND GENERAL UPDATES.
9. ASA'S CAN BE FOUND ONLINE AT
HTTPS(DOUBLE SLASH)HOME.NAVAIR.NAVY.MIL./PMA202/.//
 

brownshoe

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The Dude on the rear right (standing to my left), is the late CDR (LT in the pic) Vance Schufeldt. Saw his name on an internet USNA Memorial site saying he had passed away in the late-70s, with no info as to how he had died??? A Canoe U. grad around '63, he was an RP of mine when I was IP in VA-125. He was a fine gent, and outstanding stick. His combat Sqdn was VA-163 and he made his name in the successful delivery of SHRIKE & the then new WALLEYE TV Guided Missiles. When we both reported to VA-44 A-4 RAG at Cecil Field in '68, I became Weps Training, and Vance was assigned as my Asst. in Shrike/Walleye Delivery. Everyone who knew figured he would one day wear stars. RIP Vance.:icon_zbee
BzB

Did someone mention VA-44?:)

Hey Hugh! Doing okay out there? Cold as shit back here! AND… were expecting another ice storm tonight.

Steve

(Have you heard from Debbie? Last I heard Ron was being airlifted to another hospital. I miss the “old fart’s” phone calls. BTW… you owe me a call!)
 
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