I’m pretty sure I covered that in the original post. Hornet people said they were at home with a phone “on duty”Is this a real question or were you never really around an active Navy squadron during your time in?
I’m pretty sure I covered that in the original post. Hornet people said they were at home with a phone “on duty”Is this a real question or were you never really around an active Navy squadron during your time in?
Do Navy units even have officer watch standers?
Asked and answered, then.I’m pretty sure I covered that in the original post. Hornet people said they were at home with a phone “on duty”
So is this back the the cultural thing or are you drunker than me? A watch stander at home with a phone isn’t a watch stander any more than the CO/XO/Senior enlistedAsked and answered, then.
Ha, maybe back to the cultural thing. I took your first question at face value. Your issue is with Navy duty Officers being off-post after the working day and the Enlisted watch stander remaining on-post? Is there (without me being a 'risk averse pussy' in your words) a value in the Officer remaining on post other than stretching the duty day of a JO in an already undermanned squadron?So is this back the the cultural thing or are you drunker than me? A watch stander at home with a phone isn’t a watch stander any more than the CO/XO/Senior enlisted
Yes, I suppose it’s back to the cultural thing. There weren’t enough officers to have one on duty every day in my fleet squadron, so the watch bill was shared between company grade officers and SNCO’s.Ha, maybe back to the cultural thing. I took your first question at face value. Your issue is with watch Navy duty Officers being off-post after the working day and the Enlisted watch stander remaining on-post? Is there (without me being a 'risk averse pussy' in your words) a value in the Officer remaining on post other than stretching the duty day of a JO in an already undermanned squadron?
Got it. I know of exactly zero folks that have exhausted several thousand pounds of bombs, several hundred rounds of 20mm and subsequently been defeated by a lack of pistol ammo. If there was a serious risk of shoot down or capture, I also know of zero COs that would prohibit personnel loading their weapons appropriately.The risk adverse pussy comment was aimed at people more worried about getting fired than running an armed service. Kind of like how (I hear) Naval Aviators (in the Navy) aren’t trusted to carry a loaded pistol into combat.
So you’re defending the decision to not trust officers entrusted with bombs and 20mm with a fucking 9mm? It’s absurd. It’s indefensible. It’s pathetic.Got it. I know of exactly zero folks that have exhausted several thousand pounds of bombs, several hundred rounds of 20mm and subsequently been defeated by a lack of pistol ammo. If there was a serious risk of shoot down or capture, I also know of zero COs that would prohibit personnel loading their weapons appropriately.
Answered your own question:Do Navy units even have officer watch standers?
You went here:I’m pretty sure I covered that in the original post. Hornet people said they were at home with a phone “on duty”
And here:Kind of like how (I hear) Naval Aviators (in the Navy) aren’t trusted to carry a loaded pistol into combat.
And, no. No one is saying that an Officer that take weapons into combat isn't trusted with a 9mm. If they are, that's on them. Creating your own absurdity doesn't grant the ability to create your own reality.So you’re defending the decision to not trust officers entrusted with bombs and 20mm with a fucking 9mm? It’s absurd. It’s indefensible. It’s pathetic.
It would be cool if you put as much effort into making a point as you do in quoting me.You started here:
Answered your own question:
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And, no. No one is saying that an Officer that take weapons into combat isn't trusted with a 9mm. If they are, that's on them. Creating your own absurdity doesn't grant the ability to create your own reality.
Did you fly in combat with a loaded weapon?
Do Navy units even have officer watch standers? I seem to remember laughing at Navy dudes and dudettes bitching about being “on duty” for their squadron, which apparently consisted of taking a cell phone home. Every Marine unit I’ve been in has a 24 hour duty that is an officer and/or SNCO that’s armed.
Leaving it up to local commanders will have the obvious outcome of risk averse pussies doing the math on what is more likely to get them fired.
The entire navy didn't buy in to this craziness, after someone shot a chair on a carrier somewhere.
This whole post is better thought out than how I was trying to put it.It's more that I lack confidence that OPNAV won't fuck it up if they try to make a broad sweeping change in policy because the requirements between commands are so varied.........
I don't know why everyone is being a dick to you about your question, but here's the answer:So is this back the the cultural thing or are you drunker than me? A watch stander at home with a phone isn’t a watch stander any more than the CO/XO/Senior enlisted