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FY 18 IWC DCO BOARD

FormerRecruitingGuru

FormerRecruitingGuru

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Reservist said:
The board's reliance on metrics like grades as oppose to, a guy was awarded a bronze star from an IA combat tour sitting as S2 and as an advisor to an afghan colonel got to count a little more than his college GPA that he can't change that was from 10 or 15 years ago.
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I had an O-5 CO who did an IA in Iraq and he got a Bronze Star. He told me they were handing them out to everyone like candy - he was actually shocked he got one because he didn't think he deserved it. The Bronze Star nowadays is almost common for anyone doing an IA. Getting a ribbon/award doesn't entitle you to additional consideration by the board.

Reservist said:
When the Navy promotes people, they do not look back at college GPA's, they look at evals, awards, assignments.
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Two different boards. One is for selection (DCO), the other for retainment and promotion.

Reservist said:
I think any hard charging officer recruiter would give a hooray and admit there's plenty of truth in what I'm saying
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I disagree with everything you just said. I'll let @NavyOffRec add his two cents too. Graduate education and high GPAs are two factors that help "set the tone" with DCO boards, but they're not the only two factors. They look at your military/civilian leadership and experience to include "impact bullets", letters of recommendation, your application/motivational statement, and of course your interviews/OIC endorsement.

The way you're talking here, you're coming off as "I was enlisted, I did my time - I should automatically be an officer now". The boards aren't going to lower their standards just so you can get in. You're competing against folks with extensive military and/or civilian backgrounds. The graduate education and high GPAs usually complement that. The board members are all if not mostly Reserve IWC. They have civilian jobs and the military experience to know what the community is looking for.

The problem isn't the boards screwing people over. The problem is you not understanding the competitiveness of selection. It's time you eat some Humble Pie.
 
bubblehead

bubblehead

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RUFiO181 said:
I had an O-5 CO who did an IA in Iraq and he got a Bronze Star. He told me they were handing them out to everyone like candy - he was actually shocked he got one because he didn't think he deserved it. The Bronze Star nowadays is almost common for anyone doing an IA. Getting a ribbon/award doesn't entitle you to additional consideration by the board.
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Pretty much... BSM's with no "V" device are simple "combat zone" meritorious awards. BSM's are handed out OCONUS like Navy Commendation Medals are CONUS.
 
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USNAVY

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RUFiO181 said:
I had an O-5 CO who did an IA in Iraq and he got a Bronze Star. He told me they were handing them out to everyone like candy - he was actually shocked he got one because he didn't think he deserved it. The Bronze Star nowadays is almost common for anyone doing an IA. Getting a ribbon/award doesn't entitle you to additional consideration by the board.



Two different boards. One is for selection (DCO), the other for retainment and promotion.



I disagree with everything you just said. I'll let @NavyOffRec add his two cents too. Graduate education and high GPAs are two factors that help "set the tone" with DCO boards, but they're not the only two factors. They look at your military/civilian leadership and experience to include "impact bullets", letters of recommendation, your application/motivational statement, and of course your interviews/OIC endorsement.

The way you're talking here, you're coming off as "I was enlisted, I did my time - I should automatically be an officer now". The boards aren't going to lower their standards just so you can get in. You're competing against folks with extensive military and/or civilian backgrounds. The graduate education and high GPAs usually complement that. The board members are all if not mostly Reserve IWC. They have civilian jobs and the military experience to know what the community is looking for.

The problem isn't the boards screwing people over. The problem is you not understanding the competitiveness of selection. It's time you eat some Humble Pie.
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For the impact bullets I'm assuming for the resume and/or motivational?
 
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Andrew Roos

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lweathe said:
Got the official word earlier today that I was selected for 1835. Congrats to those who were picked up and good luck in the future to those who were not. I’m not going to pretend I know all the answers but happy and willing to share my experience with anyone.
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Have you heard how long the process takes to get our security clearance, final select, and are able to commission?
 
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Hair Warrior

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You can commission before your clearance is adjudicated.
bubblehead said:
A long time. There is a huge backlog. My last Periodic Review took 1.6 years from submission of eQIP to full adjudication.
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To add to bubble, clearance hold-ups can potentially make it tough to earn your 3I1 intel PQS within the required 36 mo. of commission. I think it’s extendable to 48 mo. with a waiver, but I have no idea what that process looks like.
 
alwayshi

alwayshi

Member
Andrew Roos said:
Have you heard how long the process takes to get our security clearance, final select, and are able to commission?
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Clearances take a while, just as bubblehead said. It all depends on your individual situation/what you listed in your eQIP/SF86 - i.e. foreign relatives, financial issues, etc. It takes forever even if you have a spotless record.

I got my verbal notification last Friday and am waiting for the recruiter to send the select letter and comm packet for me to complete. I hear that can take up to a month. Fingers crossed it doesn't take much longer than that, since I'm old with no prior service. ;)
 
bubblehead

bubblehead

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USNAVY said:
Do IWC Officers take a poly?
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Yes. If you are assigned to DIA or NSA you will be subject to a Counterintelligence Scope polygraph ("CI Poly"). There are others agencies which also require it. Certain Special Access Programs (SAP) also require a CI poly.

Additionally, if you are assigned to NSA (i.e., a Reserve unit supporting NSA), you will have to fill out their own version of the SF86, so ensure you save everything from your eQIP because you will be providing it all over again, in part.
 
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lab312

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I still have not heard from my OR. I've reached out but he has not responded. Anyone else still waiting? Any advice on someone else to reach out to/access to the list?
 
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bldalton

Member
I contacted my OR's and got the following reply: "No, no results yet. This is the unfortunate time period where rumor patrol FLIES! The community, upon official completion of the board and respective results, will send an official letter to all the commands. Until then, don't believe the rumor patrol!"

My OR's (working with two form the same office) have been quite helpful. I know they have a lot on their plates, so I'm being as patient as I can.
 
FormerRecruitingGuru

FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
bldalton said:
I contacted my OR's and got the following reply: "No, no results yet. This is the unfortunate time period where rumor patrol FLIES! The community, upon official completion of the board and respective results, will send an official letter to all the commands. Until then, don't believe the rumor patrol!"

My OR's (working with two form the same office) have been quite helpful. I know they have a lot on their plates, so I'm being as patient as I can.
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Tell you OR results are on the NRC share point, in particular N31 GENOFF programs
 
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