Thanks I appreciate. I’m definitely submitting a FOIA. No disrespect I need answers, I can’t get answers as to why I haven’t got selected.
Did you just not read my previous post about the results. Chill the F—- out...
Relax. I’ve already been told I was a non-select period. So I think you need to watch your verbiage. No need to use the f word....
Officer and Enlisted are different classes. Officers look to select what they believe will be a certain caliber of person and the way they do that is a bit old fashioned. In all fairness to the board members, with kids just out of school, grades are all that you have to look at. For guys like you and me, it's small piece of the puzzle, ancient history, and too late to do much about it this late in the game. But people have blinders on with selections boards like this and metrics sometime.
That is my guess man. If I am right, and I think I am, it sucks for me because I really can't improve on much. I went to college working full time, with two kids, I was in the reserve, divorced, finished college went to grad school. I just kept scraping by, but being top student was not in the cards for me. But neither was food service so I did what I could and ended up okay. When I get the chance to go all in, I'm a top performer too, but I can balance a lot too and move forward. But for this, they want to see Officer pedigree. Very good grades with a fancy school too if they can. Just my take.
I have been in the Navy Reseves for about 2 years and prior to that I was in the Air Force. Currently I am a Intelligence Specialist (IS) and have some mobilizations under my belt but my degrees and civilian work experiences are NOT related to Intel. During my OIC interview, I was told that my chances will be limited due to my civilian job and my degrees not being related to Intel. I am hoping for the best but after seeing some of the candidates that were not selected, I’m not feeling very optimistic.Wow... really sad to hear all this. I don't think the grades should be the make-or-break in your situation, because from your description, your achievements are extremely impressive.
But I'm really getting the feeling that GPA is very important. I was told over the phone today by an OR that 3.6-3.7 GPA is competitive for EDO DCO. That's crazy if you think about it. For many people at least, grad school tends to inflate GPA, so there's that. She used the "whole person" phrase, but still stressed the GPA. Even if you couldn't get into many of the classes you wanted to take in your Master's (because too many students and too few slots), the GPA and degree are still the GPA and degree.
There is a minimum GPA. Why? Because they need to filter out people due to the sheer number applying or wanting to apply and GPA is an easy filter.Wow... really sad to hear all this. I don't think the grades should be the make-or-break in your situation, because from your description, your achievements are extremely impressive.
IMHO, with a retention rate of DCO assendees as bad as they are, a hard look at the board process would be fiscally wise. A lot of money invested in training goes out the door when you have uber motivated individuals fall flat on qualification milestones.
And how should the board select individuals? I would say the process is fine as is.
IMHO, with a retention rate of DCO assendees as bad as they are, a hard look at the board process would be fiscally wise. A lot of money invested in training goes out the door when you have uber motivated individuals fall flat on qualification milestones.
This may be part of your problem right here.Hey MTRIO - I'm not sure what you are doing wrong. You sound like someone I would have selected, but I was a non-select. From what I can tell, grades count a lot. I was prior service navy intel, combat tour, bronze star, left in 2011. Finished a law degree, passed the bar, got great LOR's too, my resume in flawless, my references impeccable, my board scores were very good and have little to no room for improvement. I have served in leadership roles in combat at the O-4 level. That's how I was awarded a bronze star. Just got lucky and fell into a role in war zone that was way above my pay grade, I ran with it and excelled.
So there doesn't seem to be much I can change. My records is basically set. My undergrad was state college 2.99, 3.01 if I do the math my way. My law school was 2.65. Seems to me these boards focus on metrics. They want to know your GPA, where you went to school. They want hard facts. Now, I'm going for Intel 1835 - you might be trying for something else. That other stuff seems more selective to me. My GPA can't change. If that is the first or second thing they look at to rack and stack candidates, that is why I'm out.
I had served directly with the O-6 who was at my interview. He reached out to me directly by e-mail and offered to help me in any way he could. I know I got the recommendations. He helped rewrite my resume. That can be tricky. BY the time it got to the board, it was incredible. So for me, I'm guessing grades has to be the issue. You might have really great grades, I don't know. Maybe its the non-prior service thing, but I will tell you that I'v met a lot fewer prior service ensigns than this blog would lead you to believe. Prior Service helps, but I suspect it pushes someone over the edge if they are looking at two candidates that meet other metrics like GPA.
Officer and Enlisted are different classes. Officers look to select what they believe will be a certain caliber of person and the way they do that is a bit old fashioned. In all fairness to the board members, with kids just out of school, grades are all that you have to look at. For guys like you and me, it's small piece of the puzzle, ancient history, and too late to do much about it this late in the game. But people have blinders on with selections boards like this and metrics sometime.
That is my guess man. If I am right, and I think I am, it sucks for me because I really can't improve on much. I went to college working full time, with two kids, I was in the reserve, divorced, finished college went to grad school. I just kept scraping by, but being top student was not in the cards for me. But neither was food service so I did what I could and ended up okay. When I get the chance to go all in, I'm a top performer too, but I can balance a lot too and move forward. But for this, they want to see Officer pedigree. Very good grades with a fancy school too if they can. Just my take.
Getting enlisted experience isn't that hard to do, but frankly, you are way over qualified for enlisted service. I was over qualified for enlisted service when I was enlisted and I might still re-enlist anyway. It's a tough call. I love the Navy. But there are parts of it like this that really aren't fair. Good luck man!
There is a minimum GPA. Why? Because they need to filter out people due to the sheer number applying or wanting to apply and GPA is an easy filter.
This goes to show just how competitive this program is at this point across all designators. I have a SUPPO in my Reserve unit. In his day job, he is a Vice President of Worldwide Sales for a multi-billion dollar company, and he as a couple of degrees.