PA 203 does mention computer science, fortunately. Even things like math, chemistry, and ceramics are on there. CS lends itself to software engineering and is the major to study to be properly educated to become a software engineer. Some form of software is in literally everything these days, like fancy toilets.
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I'll have to check those out. Thanks. The problem with EDO/AEDO seems to be they require very specific things (P.E. licence/aero-related work).
I think my plan is going to focus on going for an IWC DCO (Intel or IP). Will have to look into different certs possibly. As for the Master's, I will be beginning the Naval War College's Fleet Seminar Program this fall (registered for 'Strategy and War' class) and plan to apply for the related Master's program next year. Also, looking into a Computer Engineering program.
I definitely am interested more in management. Don't want to be a code monkey. The technical stuff is fine but I've done an assortment of technical work in the past and want to move on. In my current position I've been given the opportunity to move towards project management and I am finding it more interesting.
I think my plan is going to focus on going for an IWC DCO (Intel or IP). Will have to look into different certs possibly. As for the Master's, I will be beginning the Naval War College's Fleet Seminar Program this fall (registered for 'Strategy and War' class) and plan to apply for the related Master's program next year. Also, looking into a Computer Engineering program.
I definitely am interested more in management. Don't want to be a code monkey. The technical stuff is fine but I've done an assortment of technical work in the past and want to move on. In my current position I've been given the opportunity to move towards project management and I am finding it more interesting.
As I'm in the application process, I've asked a number of EDOs who haven't heard of many EDOs being EIT or PE licensed, and the EDO community includes civil engineers (the people who actually need an EIT/PE, along with some mechanical and power engineers). You're a CS guy. EIT/PE is absolutely irrelevant. I just got a waiver earlier today from the Reserve OCM as a just-in-case measure waiving the experience and PE "requirement". The Reserve OCM is an EDO himself, and part of his job as OCM is to play gatekeeper.
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Huh, below is an excerpt from the doc my OR gave me describing the different programs:
Engineering Duty Officer (EDO):
Applicants must hold an advanced engineering degree, either a Master of Science or a Doctorate in an
approved field. ... A Professional Engineer (PE) license or Engineer in Training Certificate is
preferred. ...
But you're right. It would be a massive waste of time/money/effort for me to get a PE/EIT. It would serve no purpose for my specific career. I think I need to get in front of some Reserve Officers from these fields and talk to them directly.
Engineering Duty Officer (EDO):
Applicants must hold an advanced engineering degree, either a Master of Science or a Doctorate in an
approved field. ... A Professional Engineer (PE) license or Engineer in Training Certificate is
preferred. ...
But you're right. It would be a massive waste of time/money/effort for me to get a PE/EIT. It would serve no purpose for my specific career. I think I need to get in front of some Reserve Officers from these fields and talk to them directly.
Yes, it's also mentioned in PA 203. But seriously, holding software engineers to standards only really needed by civil engineers is silly. I work at a major tech corporation and the world leader in mobile technologies/standards. I haven't heard of anyone having an EIT/PE, and few I talk to seem to know what it is because frankly it's one of the most useless things hardware and software engineers could get.
If I'm talking to EDO Captains/Commanders who scratch their heads to remember if they know anyone with an EIT/PE, then I'm sure the selection board knows this isn't really a thing even in their own community. My only concern is if they're under the impression that it's a thing in the civilian world outside of civil engineers and some mechanical, power, and chemical engineers. Otherwise, it just seems like it's a check mark item. If you have it, cool, if not then, whatever. At least that's what I'm hoping the reality is.
If I'm talking to EDO Captains/Commanders who scratch their heads to remember if they know anyone with an EIT/PE, then I'm sure the selection board knows this isn't really a thing even in their own community. My only concern is if they're under the impression that it's a thing in the civilian world outside of civil engineers and some mechanical, power, and chemical engineers. Otherwise, it just seems like it's a check mark item. If you have it, cool, if not then, whatever. At least that's what I'm hoping the reality is.
Then maybe the PA and the reserve recruitment info should be updated not to make it out like it's a requirement so it doesn't scare off people like we're seeing right now.
To my understanding, DCO IP/CW de facto requires relevant work experience (read: IT security / infosec) and lots of DoDD 8570 approved IT certifications.
Excellent news. Thanks for sharing.
To my understanding, DCO IP/CW de facto requires relevant work experience (read: IT security / infosec) and lots of DoDD 8570 approved IT certifications.
Excellent news. Thanks for sharing.
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