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JoJoGoHard

PRO-REC Y IW (18100) 20DEC13
The SWO options are generally single digits each year (Intel had 0 SWO options for FY13)

For clarity and understanding, when you referenced "(Intel had 0 SWO-Options for FY13)" did you mean "IDC had 0 SWO-Options?" I say this because SWO-Intel is not an option for SWO follow-on. SWO-Options are Nuke (11601)/EDO (11602)/ IP (11603)/OCEANO (11604) and IW (11605)... Simply to eliminate any confusion...
 

exNavyOffRec

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For clarity and understanding, when you referenced "(Intel had 0 SWO-Options for FY13)" did you mean "IDC had 0 SWO-Options?" I say this because SWO-Intel is not an option for SWO follow-on. SWO-Options are Nuke (11601)/EDO (11602)/ IP (11603)/OCEANO (11604) and IW (11605)... Simply to eliminate any confusion...


SWO-Intel is now an option, I don't have the designator number handy but it is listed on the goaling sheets and phrogshoes wife talked about how they had the SWO-Intel option now.
 

JoJoGoHard

PRO-REC Y IW (18100) 20DEC13
Well that's definitely current and brand new gouge to me. If true and to be the case, this update regarding SWO-Intel was made effective after May 15th 2013.
 

exNavyOffRec

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Well that's definitely current and brand new gouge to me. If true and to be the case, this update regarding SWO-Intel was made effective after May 15th 2013.


It was on the FY13 goal sheet, the info came out in 2012 and it was seen on the goal sheet Jan/Feb 2013
 

JoJoGoHard

PRO-REC Y IW (18100) 20DEC13
Dude,
That is, like, so last fiscal year!
Pickle

I'm going directly off the Fleet Officer Candidate School (OCS) Application Checklist (Updated 15 May 2013) and SWO-Intel is clearly not listed as an option on there. I'm not making information up or attempting to put bad gouge out there, simply stating the facts of my findings. Not taking shots or calling anyone a liar, but kindly show me an instruction or some form of correspondence indicating SWO-Intel is now an option for IDC and this can simply be put to rest. By the way last fiscal year was only 24 days ago...
 

exNavyOffRec

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I'm going directly off the Fleet Officer Candidate School (OCS) Application Checklist (Updated 15 May 2013) and SWO-Intel is clearly not listed as an option on there. I'm not making information up or attempting to put bad gouge out there, simply stating the facts of my findings. Not taking shots or calling anyone a liar, but kindly show me an instruction or some form of correspondence indicating SWO-Intel is now an option for IDC and this can simply be put to rest. By the way last fiscal year was only 24 days ago...

It isn't on the checklist, don't even think it made it on the PA yet, but it is on the goal sheet with the designator number, and I believe it was either phrogshoeswife or it was on the final status report for FY12 that a person at OCS was redesignated to SWO Intel.

FYI, the NRC documents can take months to route after they are changed, sometimes we would get told a form was changed and it would be 6 months before it was actually distributed. I also don't see NRC in a hurry to update the checklist since there goal was 0 for FY13.

I will look up the designator number on that sheet.
 

exNavyOffRec

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On my sheet it is listed as 1160X so I don't have the final number, I would say phrogshoeswife would be the one to get the designator number from as she seems to be really tied into what they were doing with SWO-Intel

Here is the link to the thread where she talks about Intel-SWO, it is the first post on the second page, she is in the Intel community.

http://www.airwarriors.com/communit...are-officer-the-community-for-me.38473/page-2
 
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JoJoGoHard

PRO-REC Y IW (18100) 20DEC13
On my sheet it is listed as 1160X so I don't have the final number, I would say phrogshoeswife would be the one to get the designator number from as she seems to be really tied into what they were doing with SWO-Intel

Here is the link to the thread where she talks about Intel-SWO, it is the first post on the second page, she is in the Intel community.

http://www.airwarriors.com/communit...are-officer-the-community-for-me.38473/page-2


I appreciate that NavyOffRec, today I was informed and learned something new... Good reading...
 

exNavyOffRec

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I appreciate that NavyOffRec, today I was informed and learned something new... Good reading...

Here is a good one, I am sure you have seen the designator EDO-SEGA and CWE, right when they decided to look for these people we rec'd an email giving guidelines as to what they were looking for but no PA, no designator, very little but these are the degrees we want and the GPA range, so we would submit kits without designator number or if they had been to board before a reconsideration letter saying they wanted to be evaluated for one or the other, in some cases NRC told me, "we have the old kit, just send up the letter" this was unlike what we had done before. In a few cases applicants were notified that they had been reviewed and pro Y for EDO SEGA without ever applying and were asked if they wanted the spot.
 

azguy

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"The IC" is an extremely broad group... What exactly do you want to do?

SWO is the best option if you aren't competitive enough for Intel straight up, in the sense that you can put in a 4 yrs and then lat xfer or get out. But then again, Navy Intel is just one small facet of the IC as a whole -- which is why you could probably be a bit more specific.

That said, there are pilots and NFOs working in and for the IC in many capacities, they just have to wait a bit longer (6 yrs) to fulfill their service obligation and lat xfer or get out and apply to another agency.
 

azguy

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Joining the navy with hopes of transitioning to the IC is dumb, unless you've already been rejected by the big agencies.....even then, still kinda dumb. Military analysts are generally not held in high regard within the beltway and are rarely hired, especially when competing against ivy league grads who are native speakers of a target language. Want more a more techie intel job? Then you're competing with engineers with advanced degrees from MIT, JHU et cetera. The IC does not have trouble finding extremely well qualified applicants.

Hell, it is RARE for an intel O to be an actual analyst. You will largely be regurgitating short bits of information produced by a much larger entity, or helping with plans. Typically if a retiring intel O stays in the field, he/she remains with their branch of service, usually as a GS-12 or 13. Vast majority of retiring intel Os find work in other industries. Flyers can chime in here, but in my experience, it is almost unheard of a retiring pilot to join the IC in some capacity that isn't directly tied to aviation. Again, 33 year old P-3/f-18 pilot who can fly the jet with related experience/knowledge, versus a 27 year old masters/PHD grad from the ivy league? You can see why it doesn't often work out.

I got a kick out of your post, you know enough to be dangerous, but you're just wrong here man.

I bet I can guess exactly where you work (down to the shop)...
 
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