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sidhu079

New Member
Hello Everyone,

this forum gives a lot of hope to all citizens. Taking OAR soon. Hope brings courage. Courage allows commitment! All gives you Honor to stand tall. Coming strong with secret sauce!! Appreciate all Air Warriors standing strong!!! Undisputed Strong Ameircen!!
 
Just took the test. First time. Studied for about 4 days with materials from Kyle's Study Kit. No prior aviation knowledge. No video game experience.
63/8/7/7.
Plan was to take it, then see what I needed to practice on, then retake, but my recruiter says these are good enough scores. Can someone please explain to me what immediate selection qualification means?

Math: Very difficult right off the bat. I'm terrible at word problems. Weighted averages, averages/percents, matrix, probability. I ran out of time.
Reading: Surprisingly easy. I read a lot for fun? Finished with ~5 mins to spare.
Mechanics: I'm terrible at this too. Projectile speeds, pulleys, levers, Bernoulli, horizontal/vertical velocity. Ran out of time on a combined spring/pulley problem.

Aviation/Nautical: Study from Popeye's ANIT in Kyle's link. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AvPi5oH_h_13TGajDvflDWkftwXO8LS6 That was a godsend. Make flash cards out of that entire document. Many questions about specific planes. Some VFR questions. Finished with ~10 mins to spare.

UAV: I guess I'm just an idiot because the compass trick only partially worked for me. I found out in the practice that the answer was always the opposite side from what my little hand compass said so I just went with it. Averaged 3.5 seconds. Had some long ones (9-12 secs) when my brain ceased to work at times.
Listening: The headset they had was stereo so I could hear both the left and right in each ear. I definitely could do better another go around.
Tracking: That was a hot mess for me. Up is down on one and up is up on another. By the end I felt I was doing better, but maybe my standards just lowered. The combined listening I messed up a few times when I chose the right button when I should have clicked the left left.
Missed 1 emergency section because I didn't realize there were fuel gauges while I was trying to track. I made three cheat sheets and proper them up in front of the screen.

While taking it, I was convinced I got 4's on that entire test. It was very challenging.
Keep up your hard studying, you got this!
 
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the_falcon

New Member
Hi all! I suppose it is finally my time to write on here.

After using this forum for as many tips, hints, tricks, and information I took my third attempt at the ASTB today.

First attempt: 35 1/2/1 - Sometime around 2016
Second attempt: 50 4/5/4 - 13 Aug 2019
Third attempt: 54 7/8/6 - 12 Sept 2019

Going into my last test I was pretty nervous, but as soon as I sat down the nervousness went away. I have to thank everyone on here that has posted their guides, tips, tricks, hints, etc. I did what everyone else stated to do, go back about 30-40 pages and just READ, save the information on your computer, write it down, whatever helps you find it easier. After going through all of the gouges, I searched online "ASTB Flashcards" and a ton of information came up. So thank you everyone who has contributed! I'll be applying for SNA in the upcoming board!

Math: It started fairly simple with probability and ratio problems, did some algebra (nothing too crazy, negative exponent divided by other numbers with exponents) and ended up with matrix problems. The test kicked me out early after a few matrix problems. I am no where near a math whiz, and used YouTube to tutor myself, I watched Khan Academy and The Organic Chemistry Tutor mainly. The books did not explain the math well enough for me.

Reading: Like everyone else stated, bland and boring. I read car manuals, old navy documents (NAVADMIN helped out a lot) and used some of the practice problems I found on this website and books.

Mechanical: Super easy, this is where my studies were focused. I had a questions about at which point is velocity the highest in a tube, a few electricity questions, one was about a piece of metal wrapped around a nail and how much voltage it could run if it was not around the nail, and then some lever stuff. YouTube again has great information and the information on the website is plentiful.

Naval Aviation Trait Facet Inventory: It sucked, there is no way to study for it, but the way I answered was, "would I rather" in a sense would I rather blow a stop sign, or would I rather break something and not tell anyone. I attempted to choose the answer that was more like me, but also one that showed leadership and taking responsibility.

ANIT: Studied pretty hard for this one as well. Definitely brush up on ALL major aviation history, not just Navy. Some questions were "which aircraft first broke the sound barrier" Which aircraft was fitted for refueling during Operation Iraqi Freedom. There is tons of information out there.

PBM: This is where I started getting nervous again, but after the compass section I decided to treat it more as a video game, instead of test, and I actually started smiling and having fun. I did the compass trick found on YouTube, definitely helped. I recommend downloading Digital Combat Simulator (DCS) from Steam, and get a cheap throttle and joystick (Navy uses the Saitek X52), and just familiarize yourself with multitasking. The vertical tracking and stick tracking are simple enough, the dichotic listening is where things get harder. When it first started I learned into the target ear, and closed my eyes. Once the dichotic listening and target tracking started I still leaned over to the target ear, and my MAIN focus was listening. The last section with the emergencies was cake as well, just write down the procedures on the paper, and learn which way the engine power and fuel moves the needle.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask, I'll try to answer anything to the best of my ability!


I have one question regarding the emergency procedure portion of the test, I understand there are three settings, HIGH, LOW, and MID(I think I can't remember if this one is right). When I took the test for the second time, I got very confused with which color represents which setting and failed the first two procedures, which promptly kicked me out and showed me my score of 5/4/5. Do you know what color represents which setting? I'm really stressing about this part of the test because I don't want to make the same mistake.
 

Bigmac99

New Member
Hello all. Been lurking the forums for the past week or so after my first ASTB. I did fine on the academic sections (62 OAR, 8 AQR) but crashed and burned on the PBM (5 PFAR, 6 FOFAR). I have some idea of why I messed up, as on the Dichotic Hearing portion I forgot which button was odd/even, and basically tanked the entire section. I corrected it for the combined PBM section, but I feel my score was already doomed by then. I also did poorly on the emergency procedures section as I again neglected to write them down, and missed a key part of the instruction as a result.

So besides fixing my complacency, what other suggestions do y'all have to do better on the PBM section? Additionally, how much do you think my score was tanked by the emergency/dichotic hearing section? Finally, which should I focus more on for the UAV portion, accuracy or speed (I can get 100% accuracy in 5-6 seconds)? Thanks again, reading the gouge on this page has been extremely helpful, and I hope that this post can shed some more light on my past errors to correct my next attempt.
 

ksunjke

Well-Known Member
I have one question regarding the emergency procedure portion of the test, I understand there are three settings, HIGH, LOW, and MID(I think I can't remember if this one is right). When I took the test for the second time, I got very confused with which color represents which setting and failed the first two procedures, which promptly kicked me out and showed me my score of 5/4/5. Do you know what color represents which setting? I'm really stressing about this part of the test because I don't want to make the same mistake.
red color is on top and means 100% if im correct
 

ksunjke

Well-Known Member
Hello all. Been lurking the forums for the past week or so after my first ASTB. I did fine on the academic sections (62 OAR, 8 AQR) but crashed and burned on the PBM (5 PFAR, 6 FOFAR). I have some idea of why I messed up, as on the Dichotic Hearing portion I forgot which button was odd/even, and basically tanked the entire section. I corrected it for the combined PBM section, but I feel my score was already doomed by then. I also did poorly on the emergency procedures section as I again neglected to write them down, and missed a key part of the instruction as a result.

So besides fixing my complacency, what other suggestions do y'all have to do better on the PBM section? Additionally, how much do you think my score was tanked by the emergency/dichotic hearing section? Finally, which should I focus more on for the UAV portion, accuracy or speed (I can get 100% accuracy in 5-6 seconds)? Thanks again, reading the gouge on this page has been extremely helpful, and I hope that this post can shed some more light on my past errors to correct my next attempt.

What I did for the hearing portion was I simply wrote numbers on a piece of paper (I think throttle button was 1 3 5 7 9 and joystick 2 4 6 8) and put them on each side because when multitasking it can get confusing and it really helped me. Same with emergency procedures. Even though I memorized them way before taking the test, I still wrote them down just to be safe and not to mess it up. Good luck!
 
HERE SHE IS: 54 (6/7/8)

It feels like a rite of passage after three weeks of non-stop eating, breathing, and sleeping only "lift, weight, thrust, and drag" so here's my obligatory ASTB experience post. I have linked to my Google Drive with all materials I reference in this post. I also compiled a 40 page document of synthesized information from the most pertinent chapters of two versions of the FAA Ground Manual, complete with a lot of really critical graphics. I'll personally message this to anyone who wants it, as I think it is best reserved for those who are very serious about studying.

Very briefly-- I'm a federal economist with a BS and MS in Economics. I have a calculus and statistics background from the nature of my work. I have had no physics instruction beyond the 11th grade and my dad still changes my oil.

I studied a total of three weeks for the test, intending to only take it once. Luckily, I was able to study consistently throughout the week, averaging 6 hours a day. This is not an exaggeration. When you start to drift off in reading or become discouraged with the seemingly endless amount of materials to cover (which I did, many times) envision yourself in the exam room taking the test. What do you need to know in that moment? What bit of information would you wish you had seen before the exam? Look back at your study materials--it might be there.

1. Stay hydrated

2. Do push-ups between sections to release nervous energy

3. Do not let perceived performance on prior sections affect performance on forthcoming sections

4. Be Confident

MST: I completed about 5 or 6 packets of 100-question samples to prepare. The math is not difficult if you are familiar with how to solve it. Make yourself familiar with how to solve a vast array of questions for a variety of practice sources. You will be in excellent shape you are seeing a type of problem for the 3rd, 4th, 5th.. time when you see it on the exam. See posts #5241 and #5242 for a good supply of practice material. (Credit to user JbtheArchitect)

Reading: Make no assumptions. If a response employs definitive terms such as "only" or "never" it is likely making assumptions. Look at the syntax of different nouns in the responses. I found that two responses would differ only be the order in which the subjects were placed. I thought of it in terms of functions: if the paragraph indicates that X influences Y, with Z supplemental information, a response of Y makes Z with X associated is not correct. Pay attention to the subjects, especially. Chief of Naval Operations is not the same as Chief Naval Training Command or Naval Training Operations Management, etc. Admittedly, I did not study for this section, I just understood which answers tend to be correct. I felt very confident in this section.

MCT: A lot of this portion is pretty intuitive and relies mostly on a few predictable concepts: Bernoulli's Principle, relationships between temperature, pressure, velocity, and density, pulley systems, types of circuits, Newton's Laws. Reviewing the mechanical flashcards in the Drive along with the formula sheet (just to understand relationships, not for memorization) and you will be covered well.

[Take the full 15 minute break prior to the ASTB portion. You're doing well. Drive it home.]

ANIT: I started from ground zero on this one. I began with reading The FAA Ground Manual Chapters 1-5, then selectively subsequent Flight Instrument, Performance in Take-off and Descent, and Airspace Operations Chapters. I READ THEM, not skimmed. It took about a week to fully read, understand, and compile my synthesized document. Understand Flight Aerodynamics. Understand the effects of temperature and elevation on aircraft performance. Know your density altitude characteristics. Know about that sound barrier and Mach 1. There are ample flashcards in the drive. All are a good to review. This section had me feeling like I had the answer key due to my preparation. If you have time, read that FAA manual. It's written at a digestible level and is the foundation for everything aviation-related.

UAV/Spatial: The flashcards, obviously. Make your compass, per the Compass Trick (YouTube it.) All things you've seen on here by now. Practice exclusively with your left hand. Make your compass small enough with enough clearance to rotate between your thumb and index finger without catching. Practice keeping your left arm elevated and prevent shoulder fatigue if possible. Practice identifying and selecting a parking lot with your mouse on a computer screen (I created a template, located in the Drive.) I started learning this method 5 days prior. It didn't take too long, it's all muscle memory. My response times were consistently under two seconds with only two incorrect responses.

Dichotic Listening: Tilt your head downwards towards the target ear. Don't be trigger happy. I wrote down all odd numbers on my left to correspond with the throttle button and all even numbers on my right to correspond with the trigger button. The visual cue assisted me and took one less cognitive step out of the transaction. I did not study for this.

The 'Fun' Part: Yes, it's as chaotic as everyone says, towards the end. Heck, even in the beginning for me. I could feel the pity of the recruiter when during the screening questions he asked if I ever played video games and I responded with a keen "No, never." I suppose the equipment differs slightly at every station so try to maximize your efforts in the practice portions. When you reach the dichotic listening/simulation part, listening is more important. I heard this tip in a YouTube video. It is worth repeating; listening is more important. I can confidently say I was on either target zero percent of the time, but I was extremely responsive to the listening targets. The same goes for the emergency scenarios: write them down and make them the priority. Targets will not matter in an emergency scenario.



Then, my sweet friends, in the words of Frodo Baggins, "It's over, it's done."
 

Azabielski13

Azabielski13
Hey all! Taking the exam next month and this site has been truly helpful. Quick question I had that I haven't seen, is that do they provide formula sheets on the exam? I heard this somewhere but was not quite sure. If so what does it consist of? Thank you!
 
Hey all! Taking the exam next month and this site has been truly helpful. Quick question I had that I haven't seen, is that do they provide formula sheets on the exam? I heard this somewhere but was not quite sure. If so what does it consist of? Thank you!
They do not provide formula sheets, but they do have a formula tab on questions that require it. To recollection the formulas they did provide were basic ones that you would already know.
 

jlebsock

Member
Quick question. I know the ASTB scores are transferable between the Marine Corps and the Navy but the Marine recruiter told me I can only apply for one or the other, not both at the same time. Then I see others on the forums talking about their application for both. I just want to know if I'm being fed some BS because I can't get a clear answer. Though I am waste deep in the Navy with Navy specific LOR's and what not.
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Quick question. I know the ASTB scores are transferable between the Marine Corps and the Navy but the Marine recruiter told me I can only apply for one or the other, not both at the same time. Then I see others on the forums talking about their application for both. I just want to know if I'm being fed some BS because I can't get a clear answer. Though I am waste deep in the Navy with Navy specific LOR's and what not.

Is he at least giving you dessert with that BS he is feeding you?
 

JSaint23

Well-Known Member
Hi all! I suppose it is finally my time to write on here.

After using this forum for as many tips, hints, tricks, and information I took my third attempt at the ASTB today.

First attempt: 35 1/2/1 - Sometime around 2016
Second attempt: 50 4/5/4 - 13 Aug 2019
Third attempt: 54 7/8/6 - 12 Sept 2019

Going into my last test I was pretty nervous, but as soon as I sat down the nervousness went away. I have to thank everyone on here that has posted their guides, tips, tricks, hints, etc. I did what everyone else stated to do, go back about 30-40 pages and just READ, save the information on your computer, write it down, whatever helps you find it easier. After going through all of the gouges, I searched online "ASTB Flashcards" and a ton of information came up. So thank you everyone who has contributed! I'll be applying for SNA in the upcoming board!

Math: It started fairly simple with probability and ratio problems, did some algebra (nothing too crazy, negative exponent divided by other numbers with exponents) and ended up with matrix problems. The test kicked me out early after a few matrix problems. I am no where near a math whiz, and used YouTube to tutor myself, I watched Khan Academy and The Organic Chemistry Tutor mainly. The books did not explain the math well enough for me.

Reading: Like everyone else stated, bland and boring. I read car manuals, old navy documents (NAVADMIN helped out a lot) and used some of the practice problems I found on this website and books.

Mechanical: Super easy, this is where my studies were focused. I had a questions about at which point is velocity the highest in a tube, a few electricity questions, one was about a piece of metal wrapped around a nail and how much voltage it could run if it was not around the nail, and then some lever stuff. YouTube again has great information and the information on the website is plentiful.

Naval Aviation Trait Facet Inventory: It sucked, there is no way to study for it, but the way I answered was, "would I rather" in a sense would I rather blow a stop sign, or would I rather break something and not tell anyone. I attempted to choose the answer that was more like me, but also one that showed leadership and taking responsibility.

ANIT: Studied pretty hard for this one as well. Definitely brush up on ALL major aviation history, not just Navy. Some questions were "which aircraft first broke the sound barrier" Which aircraft was fitted for refueling during Operation Iraqi Freedom. There is tons of information out there.

PBM: This is where I started getting nervous again, but after the compass section I decided to treat it more as a video game, instead of test, and I actually started smiling and having fun. I did the compass trick found on YouTube, definitely helped. I recommend downloading Digital Combat Simulator (DCS) from Steam, and get a cheap throttle and joystick (Navy uses the Saitek X52), and just familiarize yourself with multitasking. The vertical tracking and stick tracking are simple enough, the dichotic listening is where things get harder. When it first started I learned into the target ear, and closed my eyes. Once the dichotic listening and target tracking started I still leaned over to the target ear, and my MAIN focus was listening. The last section with the emergencies was cake as well, just write down the procedures on the paper, and learn which way the engine power and fuel moves the needle.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask, I'll try to answer anything to the best of my ability!
J,

Do you happen to remember any more of the type of Math you encountered during your September session of the test?
 
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Deleted member 67926

Guest
Might sound like a dumb question. On the EST test, is the red or yellow gauge the lowest setting? So if an "engine malfunction," would I move both fuel and power to either red or yellow to raise to 100?
 

aspiringSwo

Member
Does anyone know why the answer to this step up transformer question would be C? It is my understanding that the step up transformer would take electricity from the smaller voltage, higher current from the small coil and transform it into higher voltage, lower current of the larger coil. Is the answer key wrong? Picture of the problem attached.
 

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