Q'ns about retired airframe

[Max the Mad Russian]

Thanks. Those our fucking Yak-38s with two small engines installed vertically just to land and takeoff had once been deployed in Afghan, during our war there, about 1983 right after Harriers' show at Falklands, to serve as CAS aircraft since infantry blamed Frogfoots as "blind eagles". It was summer and those poor Yaks didn't manage to fly at all with more than fumes of fuel and one gun pod only...

 

[Brett327]

No. That's because you won that war.

Weird, then, how they're not your ally.

 

[Max the Mad Russian]

Weird, then, how they're not your ally

We didn't win. You won. You won since you gave them money when the bullets ceased to fly. We too, technically defeated them but offered ideology instead. At very that moment we lost them.

 

[Brett327]

I would argue that we also offered them ideology. While the money and reconstruction facilitated the process, the ideology was what endured and became self sufficient.

 

[Max the Mad Russian]

the ideology was what endured and became self sufficient.

Dear Brett, you're partially right. You'd reinforced ideology they have already been sticking with for almost six centuries, namely something like Protestant view on life. Yes, it worked and still works. We tried to offer something new instead, and it didn't work. Our mistake? Probably so, but we then had nothing better. Dunno, maybe still haven't. Communism has historically been rooted in the same Protestant logic and originated from the same Germany, but those seeds dropped on Orthodix Russian soil gave awful results. Never been religious man, but I have no better explanation.
But they the Germans are your allies just formally. By case, you may visit Germany and look at the bar crowds at some weekend in the most rich (and Catholic, by coincidense) federal land of Bavaria, from where the Nazi movement originated. I'm not good in German, but I have already heard several times the sentence "finally, we can speak in the only true language that is able to unite the Europe and not that fucking English". It was shock to me.

 

[Max the Mad Russian]

Gents, a question about retired boat. How USS Midway during first Iraq campaign 1990-91 had managed to generate more sorties having just 2 cats than the bigger and newer TR with four? Maybe the cause was that RADM Dan March, a light attack pilot, was in command of TF154 embarked on the Midway and the boat and CVW worked as hard as it was possible?

 

[Pags]

Gents, a question about retired boat. How USS Midway during first Iraq campaign 1990-91 had managed to generate more sorties having just 2 cats than the bigger and newer TR with four? Maybe the cause was that RADM Dan March, a light attack pilot, was in command of TF154 embarked on the Midway and the boat and CVW worked as hard as it was possible?

Midway Magic.

 

[Max the Mad Russian]

Midway Magic

Was it "happy ship"? For some unexplainable reasons the ships of the navies are divided on happy and unhappy ones...

 

[Hair Warrior]

Gents, a question about retired boat. How USS Midway during first Iraq campaign 1990-91 had managed to generate more sorties having just 2 cats than the bigger and newer TR with four? Maybe the cause was that RADM Dan March, a light attack pilot, was in command of TF154 embarked on the Midway and the boat and CVW worked as hard as it was possible?

Man, that’d be a great question to ask if you work for a country trying to operate a similarly outmoded/ undersized CV.

How much does ChVK Wagner pay you to ask these questions?

 

[Max the Mad Russian]

How much does ChVK Wagner pay you to ask these questions?

Suppose less than Blackwater did

Look, NO aircraft carriers in Russia. Kuznetsov is placed under one-billion-euros refit that neither makes her better nor restores the ship's materiel condition, just wasted money for sure. Aside, Wagner, if it exists, is purely land-warfare asset. I know nothing about land warfare and don't want to

 

[Hair Warrior]

Obviously, China and India also have (or want to have) functioning CVs that could learn a lot from U.S. naval operations with retired or obsolete platforms.

 

[HAL Pilot]

Gents, a question about retired boat. How USS Midway during first Iraq campaign 1990-91 had managed to generate more sorties having just 2 cats than the bigger and newer TR with four? Maybe the cause was that RADM Dan March, a light attack pilot, was in command of TF154 embarked on the Midway and the boat and CVW worked as hard as it was possible?

I don’t know where you get your information but the TR flew more sorties during Desert Storm than any other carrier. This was despite starting combat ops on January 22 when the other 5 carriers started on January 17.

 

[Max the Mad Russian]

Obviously, China and India also have (or want to have) functioning CVs that could learn a lot from U.S. naval operations with retired or obsolete platforms.

That's much easier to obtain from Brazil which operates old French carrier. If something might be sold, it will be sold in Brazil

 

[Max the Mad Russian]

I don’t know where you get your information but the TR flew more sorties during Desert Storm than any other carrier. This was despite starting combat ops on January 22 when the other 5 carriers started on January 17.

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Would Midway not being sent off station to 5-days repair of flight deck, her record will be leading for sure. Here is the summary of study - https://www.joc.com/maritime-news/navys-nuclear-carriers-under-attack-studies_19940705.html

 

[HAL Pilot]

Midway was sent off station for 5 days but she started operations 4 days before the TR. That’s 1 day less than TR. TR flew1130 more strikes that the Midway. Midway could not have made up that difference in 1 day.

Midway had the smallest deck with the least number of aircraft. TR had the biggest. It’s a matter of size and numbers. There is no way Midway keep up even if she ran her deck/planes more efficiently.

Your link requires a subscription so I have no idea what it says. Don’t believe every @study” you read. Studies can be slanted to fit the authors bias