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Dropping from 12 to 10 airwings

Brett327

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Any P-3 folks ever heard of a hard landing resulting in blown nose gear?
 

picklesuit

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I've had my fair share of them. Dropped all the soft panels, launched the water cooler, actually had a poopy suit make it to the TACCO station...never blew a tire.
I have seen main mounts blown on takeoff due to side loading caused by poor center line control causing an abort at max weight (139,760).
If I had to guess the cause of a blown nosewheel tire, it's going to be that, or the thing was already on its last cord and MX said "it's fine" (I know, they'd never do that.)
 

rotorhead1871

UH-1N.....NAS Agana, Guam....circa 1975
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I've had my fair share of them. Dropped all the soft panels, launched the water cooler, actually had a poopy suit make it to the TACCO station...never blew a tire.
I have seen main mounts blown on takeoff due to side loading caused by poor center line control causing an abort at max weight (139,760).
If I had to guess the cause of a blown nosewheel tire, it's going to be that, or the thing was already on its last cord and MX said "it's fine" (I know, they'd never do that.)


I bounced a few too...when you go to flight idle....she kinda drops out of the sky.....I learned.....as a ex--helo guy, but it took a few passes.........I wrote up a tire once for a non aligned slip mark.....the tire obviously rotated on the wheel......the maintenance fix was: repainted slip mark...........OH Well!!.....just enjoying the memories and retirement checks now.....
 

MIDNJAC

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Landing flat was bad for the A-6 too.

prob "bad" for it, but like the prowler, there is no MSP to tell you the damage (or really lack thereof in the case of a legacy Hornet) you did. I'm not sure what the criteria for a hard landing inspection is on an A-6/EA-6, but I am guessing it involves literally collapsing a gear in the LA
 

nittany03

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prob "bad" for it, but like the prowler, there is no MSP to tell you the damage (or really lack thereof in the case of a legacy Hornet) you did. I'm not sure what the criteria for a hard landing inspection is on an A-6/EA-6, but I am guessing it involves literally collapsing a gear in the LA
>1400fpm sink rate, if that NATOPS penguin hasn't jumped off the iceberg. I'm sure that assumed no deck movement, but can't recall. I do know my pilot once pulled off a little too much power in close to at the ramp and put one hell of a crick in my neck, but it wasn't an official hard landing.
 

rotorhead1871

UH-1N.....NAS Agana, Guam....circa 1975
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>1400fpm sink rate, if that NATOPS penguin hasn't jumped off the iceberg. I'm sure that assumed no deck movement, but can't recall. I do know my pilot once pulled off a little too much power in close to at the ramp and put one hell of a crick in my neck, but it wasn't an official hard landing.

thanks much......1400 is coming down pretty good...on a GCA, all nice and stable the P3 is at 500.....and then you do all the airline stuff....nice flare, smooooooothly close the throttles...and wa-la....nobody in the back complains.... but you can still screw it up 50 different ways....

that was a while back as I transferred from VP4046 to NAVSTA Puget sound in 1985......only 30 years.......but pretty fresh memories.....I keep telling myself.
 

Brett327

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My parents lived in married student housing at Sand Point while attending grad school at UW (1968-1970), which was formerly the base housing at NAS Seattle/Sand Point/NAVSTA PS.
 

rotorhead1871

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My parents lived in married student housing at Sand Point while attending grad school at UW (1968-1970), which was formerly the base housing at NAS Seattle/Sand Point/NAVSTA PS.

small world, I was born/raised in Seattle and graduated UW in 1970.....we probably passed each other at the HUB, getting coffee!!...I spent all my time at the Chemistry building--Bagley Hall
 

Brett327

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My parents were probably hanging at the Blue Moon... with Tom Robbins. :)
 

rotorhead1871

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My parents were probably hanging at the Blue Moon... with Tom Robbins. :)

that was right next to the "sandpiper"....which was the in place when I was at the UW........I checked it out a couple of times, it was much more laid back.....now I really like laid back!...and I think the Blue Moon is still there. we get to seattle at least once a year as my sister in law lives on Whidbey..

We use to go to Sam's red robin, right at the edge of the university bridge........it has now attained chain fame as the "Red Robin"...back then everyone just called it sams...

like starbucks...it used to be a hole in the wall coffee roaster at the market.....now look at those guys....

and I thought history was boring....

take care
 

Brett327

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That's him. He lives the next town over from me in LaConner and is seen out & about now and then with his wife Alexa in tow. Now, I have no idea whether my parents were hanging with TR, but they were part of the same Seattle art/literary circles.
 
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