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RicoBean

New Member
The OP's post is actually not far from the truth. If you look at any USMC Av Plan from the last few years, you will see that we have the fewest slots available out of flight school, somewhere in the ballpark of 22. With that being said, I'm sure more students want jets then Hercs.

Nonetheless, the demand is still there. Enough demand that out of the guys or gals selecting that week, the spot will go to those with the highest NSS. To back this up even more, when I was the NATOPs officer, I got familiar with everyone's NATOPs jackets whenever we did audits. More often than not, flight school grades were in there and the majority of our pilots had high grades. Maybe not as high as jet pilots, but I think it's safe to say 50+ was common to see.

Advice to the OP, there are not many spots but if you want it, put it on your list. Don't let anyone tell you the spots are gone for the year, because that's horseshit. That's what they told me and somehow I got Herks. Let me know if you have any other questions about the community.


Sir,

I have a few questions about the Herc Community. I appreciate any info or insight you can share.

As a C-130 pilot what collateral billets are available to you when you reach the fleet?
Do you have a say or preference in the choice of your ground job (collateral billet)?
How many times do you fly per week?
What does the schedule look like of a typical work day as a C-130 pilot in the fleet?
How many hours do you typically fly per week or month?
Are you given enough free time during the work week to spend time with family and friends?
How long are deployments? (During War and Peace time)
What do you do when you are not deployed?
How would you describe your time during flight school?
What was your selection wish list coming out of Primary?
 

81montedriver

Well-Known Member
pilot
Do you guys really have to turn off the microwave to fly on NVGs? If so, man that really sucks.

Kind of but it's the other way around. When we select NVIS mode (changes all lighting to NVG compatible) the microwave is automatically turned off. So basically don't be that newb who asks the crew chief to heat up his hot pocket while in NVIS mode.
 

81montedriver

Well-Known Member
pilot
Rico ill try my best to answer your questions:

As a C-130 pilot what collateral billets are available to you when you reach the fleet?
-the same ones as any other squadron: ops, maintenance, safety or s-shops

Do you have a say or preference in the choice of your ground job (collateral billet)?
-Nope, XO fills the spots based on what's available at the time and your experience level i.e. 1st tour, second tour or Maj.

How many times do you fly per week?
-It varies but Avg is a couple times a week.

What does the schedule look like of a typical work day as a C-130 pilot in the fleet?
-normal USMC hours are 0730-1630. With that being said, in the air wing we normally work longer. I work in maintenance and I usually show at 0630 and leave at 1700.

How many hours do you typically fly per week or month?
-lowest month is 7, highest is 67. A good month is 30ish, a shitty month is 7.

Are you given enough free time during the work week to spend time with family and friends?
-yes but you have to manage your time very well. Herc guys are on the road quite a bit so even when I'm home, I'm not really home.

How long are deployments? (During War and Peace time)
-Normal OEF is 7months. A MEU could keep you out as long as 9. No idea about peace time because all my time has been in while we were at war.

What do you do when you are not deployed?
-Work at my ground job and enjoy my handful of flights a month.

How would you describe your time during flight school?
-busy just like every other platform. But fun at the same time.

What was your selection wish list coming out of Primary?
1. Herks 2. Jets 3. Ospreys

Hope this helps. Not sure where you are at right now but worry about the closest gator to the boat. So if you are applying for OCS, train for that. If you are in flight school, worry about that. There is nothing you can do now to prep yourself for a ground job. All ground jobs suck, we just suck it up and do them as best we can because that's how it is until we can go fly. But enjoy flight school because it will be the last time all you worry about flying. In the fleet you have to work study time and flight planning in with your ground job, mando fun, mando training, SAPR briefs, medical hit lists etc.

Good luck.
 

sbeaTm08

Wake up, put a good dip in, crack a cold one
pilot
Easy answer. Be tall, get anthro'd out of jets, get jet grades or somewhere near that, pray to Buddha, put some offerings up to the gods, then if you get lucky,get the herky bird, and live the dream in WestPac, or wherever.
 

RicoBean

New Member
Rico ill try my best to answer your questions:

As a C-130 pilot what collateral billets are available to you when you reach the fleet?
-the same ones as any other squadron: ops, maintenance, safety or s-shops

Do you have a say or preference in the choice of your ground job (collateral billet)?
-Nope, XO fills the spots based on what's available at the time and your experience level i.e. 1st tour, second tour or Maj.

How many times do you fly per week?
-It varies but Avg is a couple times a week.

What does the schedule look like of a typical work day as a C-130 pilot in the fleet?
-normal USMC hours are 0730-1630. With that being said, in the air wing we normally work longer. I work in maintenance and I usually show at 0630 and leave at 1700.

How many hours do you typically fly per week or month?
-lowest month is 7, highest is 67. A good month is 30ish, a shitty month is 7.

Are you given enough free time during the work week to spend time with family and friends?
-yes but you have to manage your time very well. Herc guys are on the road quite a bit so even when I'm home, I'm not really home.

How long are deployments? (During War and Peace time)
-Normal OEF is 7months. A MEU could keep you out as long as 9. No idea about peace time because all my time has been in while we were at war.

What do you do when you are not deployed?
-Work at my ground job and enjoy my handful of flights a month.

How would you describe your time during flight school?
-busy just like every other platform. But fun at the same time.

What was your selection wish list coming out of Primary?
1. Herks 2. Jets 3. Ospreys

Hope this helps. Not sure where you are at right now but worry about the closest gator to the boat. So if you are applying for OCS, train for that. If you are in flight school, worry about that. There is nothing you can do now to prep yourself for a ground job. All ground jobs suck, we just suck it up and do them as best we can because that's how it is until we can go fly. But enjoy flight school because it will be the last time all you worry about flying. In the fleet you have to work study time and flight planning in with your ground job, mando fun, mando training, SAPR briefs, medical hit lists etc.

Good luck.


Thank you sir for the response. There is not that many threads that go about the lifestyle, and pros/cons of flying the C-130s as there are about helos and jets, so I appreciate the insight.
 

Renegade One

Well-Known Member
None
Rico ill try my best to answer your questions:.... All ground jobs suck, we just suck it up and do them as best we can because that's how it is until we can go fly.
Even though they are the only "leading enlisted Marines" jobs available in the squadron?

360 Leadership evals may be tough reading for you…but who cares, yes? You're clearly doing the best you can…until you can go fly.
 

81montedriver

Well-Known Member
pilot
Even though they are the only "leading enlisted Marines" jobs available in the squadron?

360 Leadership evals may be tough reading for you…but who cares, yes? You're clearly doing the best you can…until you can go fly.
Not sure what you were getting at but ill take a stab at it. I joined the Marine Corps to fly. I enjoy flying so ultimately that is what I look forward to since my primary MOS is 7557 KC-130 Transport Plane Commander.

My ground job as the QAO is not my MOS but a ground job which is necessary for the squadron to function and ultimately vital to my career. Not only because the majority of my FITREP is based off QAO accomplishments but also because I'm a junior Capt filling a more senior Capt's billet.

Although not all ground jobs involve leading Marines, I've been fortunate to work in maintenance the majority of my time in the fleet and have led and continue to lead Marines. I enjoy what I do in my billet and work with the cream of the crop in the maintenance department.

However if I had the option to to be in a service where being a 7557 was my ground job AND flying job I'd take it because it would allow me to truly be an expert in my platform. :)
 

81montedriver

Well-Known Member
pilot
Thank you sir for the response. There is not that many threads that go about the lifestyle, and pros/cons of flying the C-130s as there are about helos and jets, so I appreciate the insight.
You got it. Keep asking questions if you have them, that's what we are here for.
 

jarhead

UAL CA; retired hinge
pilot
Rico ill try my best to answer your questions....words....

All ground jobs suck, we just suck it up and do them as best we can because that's how it is until we can go fly....
Even though they are the only "leading enlisted Marines" jobs available in the squadron?

360 Leadership evals may be tough reading for you…but who cares, yes? You're clearly doing the best you can…until you can go fly.
Not sure what you were getting at but ill take a stab at it. I joined the Marine Corps to fly. I enjoy flying so ultimately that is what I look forward to since my primary MOS is 7557 KC-130 Transport Plane Commander.

My ground job as the QAO is not my MOS but a ground job which is necessary for the squadron to function and ultimately vital to my career. Not only because the majority of my FITREP is based off QAO accomplishments but also because I'm a junior Capt filling a more senior Capt's billet.

Although not all ground jobs involve leading Marines, I've been fortunate to work in maintenance the majority of my time in the fleet and have led and continue to lead Marines. I enjoy what I do in my billet and work with the cream of the crop in the maintenance department.

However if I had the option to to be in a service where being a 7557 was my ground job AND flying job I'd take it because it would allow me to truly be an expert in my platform. :)
Bud, no need to explain what you meant...I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that most of us who read your post did not take what you said about ground jobs sucking the same way R1 did...
 

Renegade One

Well-Known Member
None
Not sure what you were getting at but ill take a stab at it. I joined the Marine Corps to fly….
Bud, no need to explain what you meant...I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that most of us who read your post did not take what you said about ground jobs sucking the same way R1 did...

Well played. However, it would appear that I've been misinformed these last 4 decades. To wit:
1. Every Marine a Rifleman.
2. A Marine officer first; a pilot second.

Makes me wonder about your rifle scores.
 

81montedriver

Well-Known Member
pilot
Well played. However, it would appear that I've been misinformed these last 4 decades. To wit:
1. Every Marine a Rifleman.
2. A Marine officer first; a pilot second.

Makes me wonder about your rifle scores.

Well I'm headed to a FAC tour shortly so ill make sure to drink some Kool Aid for you.
 
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