This guy is spot on.
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He would have my vote.
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Great video. I agree with him 100%. Is he running for president? He would have my vote too!
Funny ... I knew who you were talkin' about before I even checked the link. West is a stud ... I'd fly wing on him anyday, anyway ...
This has been making the 'rounds' and a former squadron-mate sent it to me ...
Where DO we get such men ??? And where have they all gone ???
Outstanding. Know your history. Sharia is serious shit when contrasting with our way of life.
Keep your eyes peeled.
Keep your eyes peeled.
OOOOOOHHHHH.... I FELT MY DICK MOVE!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!
That was a great video. I will be paying attention to him in the future. It appears as though he is running for congress in Florida. I would probably vote for him. I assume he is for the 2nd which boosts my appeal.
That was a great video. I will be paying attention to him in the future. It appears as though he is running for congress in Florida. I would probably vote for him. I assume he is for the 2nd which boosts my appeal.
This was the Army LtCol who went to Article 32 for discharging his pistol during an interrogation in Iraq in 2003.
From http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,326026,00.htmlWest said in a recent interview that he is unapologetic about his actions — he has often said he would walk through "hell with a gasoline can" to protect his troops. Nor is he bitter with the military for derailing his career. He said he walked away from the military "with a sense of pride and honor."
"I sacrificed my career for my soldiers and that's the bottom line," he said.
Damn! Say what you will about what he did, that is a man with conviction. He gets my vote, too. Too bad I'm an Escambia County resident and not Boca. I guess I'll have to wait 'til he runs for the Senate.
From http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,326026,00.htmlWest said in a recent interview that he is unapologetic about his actions — he has often said he would walk through "hell with a gasoline can" to protect his troops. Nor is he bitter with the military for derailing his career. He said he walked away from the military "with a sense of pride and honor."
"I sacrificed my career for my soldiers and that's the bottom line," he said.
Damn! Say what you will about what he did, that is a man with conviction. He gets my vote, too. Too bad I'm an Escambia County resident and not Boca. I guess I'll have to wait 'til he runs for the Senate.
As much as I would like to see a guy like this at the top levels of our gov't, I don't think it's going to happen. As polarized as our country has become he would alienate the left half, ensuring his defeat. You need someone who is more centralized to win a few of the vote from the opposite side to win. It's too bad, because that attitude is EXACTLY what we need to 1) Finish this war and 2) put the country on track towards an individualism mindset. A little self-reliance would do this country some good.
The man's main claim to fame is that he threatened an unarmed man with his weapon, I guess it takes real fortitude and bravery to play Jack Bauer in real life. Give me a fucking break, the man deserved his walking papers.
He has an incredibly simplistic view of Islam and has chosen to attach himself to others, some of them a bit shady, who have similar views that thankfully don't get taken too seriously by those in charge, even in the Bush administration who were 'hardliners'. As has been pointed out here before, you can take a hard look at any major religion and find a similarly bloody history, even those who claim they were fighting for 'Christianity' have very recent blood on their hands. The simple fact is is that the vast majority of Muslims don't wage war against us and aren't violent. Without some of our close allies in the Mid-East, who happen to be Muslim, we would be having a much harder time trying to wage war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
From his narrow-minded critique of the UAV strikes in Pakistan (Comparing them to LBJ's micromanagement of the air war in Vietnam? Really?) to saying that he doesn't have a problem with Muslims, just Islam, his arguments are simplistic and while they make for great speeches, are mostly wrong. Thank goodness he won't get into office, though maybe then he will stop trumpeting himself as Lieutenant Colonel. Okay, we get it, you were in the Army.....hoo-ah.
He has an incredibly simplistic view of Islam and has chosen to attach himself to others, some of them a bit shady, who have similar views that thankfully don't get taken too seriously by those in charge, even in the Bush administration who were 'hardliners'. As has been pointed out here before, you can take a hard look at any major religion and find a similarly bloody history, even those who claim they were fighting for 'Christianity' have very recent blood on their hands. The simple fact is is that the vast majority of Muslims don't wage war against us and aren't violent. Without some of our close allies in the Mid-East, who happen to be Muslim, we would be having a much harder time trying to wage war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
From his narrow-minded critique of the UAV strikes in Pakistan (Comparing them to LBJ's micromanagement of the air war in Vietnam? Really?) to saying that he doesn't have a problem with Muslims, just Islam, his arguments are simplistic and while they make for great speeches, are mostly wrong. Thank goodness he won't get into office, though maybe then he will stop trumpeting himself as Lieutenant Colonel. Okay, we get it, you were in the Army.....hoo-ah.
You want to talk about those who attach themselves to shady individuals? As much as I hate changing the subject, I couldn't help but see a striking resemblance between your words, and these guys. Well, I guess our definition of 'shady' would have to be the same to agree on this. My definition of shady is communist and/or radicals. If you think I've mislabeled any of these individuals, please correct me.
Van Jones
John Holdren
Carol Browner
Ezekiel Emanuel
You want to talk about those who attach themselves to shady individuals? As much as I hate changing the subject, I couldn't help but see a striking resemblance between your words, and these guys. Well, I guess our definition of 'shady' would have to be the same to agree on this. My definition of shady is communist and/or radicals. If you think I've mislabeled any of these individuals, please correct me.
Van Jones
John Holdren
Carol Browner
Ezekiel Emanuel
Yeah, definitely no one shady in the White House these days....:icon_roll
And FTR, he didn't make a direct comparison to LBJ and the bombings in Vietnam. He used it as an example of the type of micromanagement of the military that hinders performance and war-fighting. Like it or not, the two are indirectly comparable, but not directly as was suggested.
Quit drawing lines where they aren't, I am not talking about the people you have listed and that isn't the subject. It's almost like you can't come up with a coherent argument so you have to pull some rabbits out of a hat to distract everyone.
My definition of shady is someone banned from entering the US for criminal activity. Many of the people and the organizations starting this 'Freedom Defense Initiative' organization are the same people who were major backers and organizers of 'The Intelligence Summit' in DC, a little gathering of like-minded types that is backed by an Israeli businessman named Michael Cherney, who the US refuses to give a visa to for 'shady' activities, including suspicion of money laundering and possessing fraudulent passports among other things. His association with the 'Summit' and the general uselessness of it contributed to federal employees being banned from attending the event. And the organizer is a moron. Why a reasonably intelligent person would attend such an event that had such a inauspicious start, much less actively back, makes me wonder a bit (several prominent former intel types did drop out when Cherney's association became known. I think some of these people are so blinded by ideology and their beliefs that they ignore warning signs that what they are participating in is a farce.
This latest 'effort' seems to be nothing more than the same horse by a different name. So closely linking himself with a group of people that have little credibility outside of their own little world and who chose to so openly associate themselves with criminals and other 'shady' types it gives me another very good reason to again question his judgement.
I find it hard to believe that he could not conduct himself in the manner that the vast majority of battalion and brigade commanders who have led their units in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan have done. I would not be surprised if several of those commanders found themselves in a very similar position, yet they were able to accomplish their missions without having to stick a gun to an unarmed man's head. Something that Mr West says was successful but I have yet to see that confirmed. He should not be lauded, he should be held up as an example of what not to do, just like Oliver North.
His utter lack of good judgement, along with his flawed ideology, ensure that he will never get my vote. Hopefully he soon will be relegated to the dustbin of history where he belongs.
If you knew enough about both I doubt you would be making that claim. For one thing, it isn't the military striking targets in Pakistan, but I guess you knew that already........
Every religion has sought to actively gain converts within its history, Islam is no different. Allen West wants to wage war against all of Islam when he claims that all of Islam is at war with the rest of the world. I can't agree with his belief that Islam is totally evil. Most people want to live in peace, grow old and hope that their kids can lead a happy, productive life. Unfortunately this is not a consistent trait within all of humanity, but based on his words, he wants to eliminate 1.6 Billion people from the world.
I will agree with his point that the US gov't and most of the media have gone too far in ensuring political correctness with any group other than Wall Street bankers, CEOs and the Catholic Church. But his comments are a bit too far for me to support.
IMO most of the issues within the religion of Islam are an internal struggle between moderates and extremists. With the extreme fringes of the religion being well funded due to oil revenues, they are able to build school and mosques that indoctrinate the illiterate and uneducated into a militant form of Islam. With the lack of opportunity in many of the countries that embrace Islam, there is little prospect for a long, prosperous future for many young men and women. This has led to much of the instability we see today. Combine this with national boundaries drawn up by European colonial powers with no respect to tribal or ethnic boundaries there is little regard for government above the regional level. For us to succeed in this fight against Violent Extremist Organizations we must do what we can to enable the nations where this internal struggle is ongoing to decide for themselves which path they choose; moderation or extremism. To help these countries we must enable to governments to protect the general population to allow the country to develop into a functional economy. If these people see a gov’t that can provide basic services and can protect them, then I feel that those people will begin to support that gov’t and will reject the militant form of Islam.
Words like Allen West only fuel distrust of the United States and our efforts to stabilize the world. Don't you think that if elected, his speeches will be translated and shown to help recruit future fighters and terrorists??
I'll agree with his thought on the 'political correctness on steroids' stance, but I can not back his belief that Islam as a whole is the problem.
I will agree with his point that the US gov't and most of the media have gone too far in ensuring political correctness with any group other than Wall Street bankers, CEOs and the Catholic Church. But his comments are a bit too far for me to support.
IMO most of the issues within the religion of Islam are an internal struggle between moderates and extremists. With the extreme fringes of the religion being well funded due to oil revenues, they are able to build school and mosques that indoctrinate the illiterate and uneducated into a militant form of Islam. With the lack of opportunity in many of the countries that embrace Islam, there is little prospect for a long, prosperous future for many young men and women. This has led to much of the instability we see today. Combine this with national boundaries drawn up by European colonial powers with no respect to tribal or ethnic boundaries there is little regard for government above the regional level. For us to succeed in this fight against Violent Extremist Organizations we must do what we can to enable the nations where this internal struggle is ongoing to decide for themselves which path they choose; moderation or extremism. To help these countries we must enable to governments to protect the general population to allow the country to develop into a functional economy. If these people see a gov’t that can provide basic services and can protect them, then I feel that those people will begin to support that gov’t and will reject the militant form of Islam.
Words like Allen West only fuel distrust of the United States and our efforts to stabilize the world. Don't you think that if elected, his speeches will be translated and shown to help recruit future fighters and terrorists??
I'll agree with his thought on the 'political correctness on steroids' stance, but I can not back his belief that Islam as a whole is the problem.