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Conduct Unbecoming (what NOT to do while in a pool at PCola)

FlyingOnFumes

Nobel WAR Prize Aspirant
Does this count as a dogfight? (ending in a confirmed kill?)

Over a year ago, I ran into some Navy jet guys that said they got arrested over the weekend while on an ACM det? When asked why, they replied: "Ever since the Michael Vick scandal, dogfighting hasn't gone over so well...."
 

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
I guess I should be in prison then :)

Does this count as a dogfight? (ending in a confirmed kill?)

Over a year ago, I ran into some Navy jet guys that said they got arrested over the weekend while on an ACM det? When asked why, they replied: "Ever since the Michael Vick scandal, dogfighting hasn't gone over so well...."
 

usmarinemike

Solidly part of the 42%.
pilot
Contributor
He submitted his resignation...end of the story as far as him being a Marine is concerned. Felony animal cruelty charges in the 1stCivDiv will be bad enough...

Can you do that on your first commission? There's no way that lets him out of UCMJ charges. Otherwise every 2ndLt with a DUI would just leave right then and there.
 

Picaroon

Helos
pilot
Regardless of the type of animal - what part of acting like a fucking adult are people missing?

Roger, innocent until proven guilty - I'm a firm believer in that. But when you screw up, or are perceived as screwing up, as a service member, you bring discredit upon the whole lot of us.

To any ensigns/2nd LTs out there - if it seems like it could possibly come back to haunt you - DON'T FREAKIN' DO IT!
This is kinda what pisses me off though. The public parading around signs and condemning not only the man but also his organization because his ex claims that he killed the dog, while he's put in a not guilty plea? Yeah it seems like he's got a fair amount of evidence against him, but we don't really know the details yet. And people on this forum are literally pulling the "are you still beating your wife?" attack on him as well.
 

Ken_gone_flying

"I live vicariously through myself."
pilot
Contributor
This is kinda what pisses me off though. The public parading around signs and condemning not only the man but also his organization because his ex claims that he killed the dog, while he's put in a not guilty plea? Yeah it seems like he's got a fair amount of evidence against him, but we don't really know the details yet. And people on this forum are literally pulling the "are you still beating your wife?" attack on him as well.

If he was innocent, do you think he would have put in his resignation?
 

Treetop Flyer

Well-Known Member
pilot
If he was innocent, do you think he would have put in his resignation?

Do you think that means he's definitely guilty? Let's just agree that we don't know for sure and he's out now anyway. To all you 2nd Lt's and Ensigns waiting for API, don't choke out any dogs or shoot protected birds.
 

nittany03

Recovering NFO. Herder of Programmers.
pilot
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
Do you think that means he's definitely guilty? Let's just agree that we don't know for sure and he's out now anyway. To all you 2nd Lt's and Ensigns waiting for API, don't be that guy.
Fixed that for you. :icon_tong
 

HueyCobra8151

Well-Known Member
pilot
Can you do that on your first commission? There's no way that lets him out of UCMJ charges. Otherwise every 2ndLt with a DUI would just leave right then and there.

Speaking in general terms, he wouldn't have submitted a resignation. He would have submitted a request to resign, effectively waiving his ad-sep board. This saves the Marine Corps time and money. HQMC can still reject this if they want.

This wouldn't affect the characterization of service though, it would still be a general or an OTH or whatever it is.
 

MasterBates

Well-Known Member
If he was innocent, do you think he would have put in his resignation?

Well, as someone who was accused of all sorts of outlandish garbage, to include beating my now ex-wife, trying to kill her cat, and beating her dog, and to have ZERO command support, I was really fucking close to resigning my commission as well.

You are innocent until proven guilty.

Except when domestic violence is charged. Then you are guilty until you prove your innocence.
 
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