Barnard1425 said:\ "Marine OCS is harder but Navy OCS sucks more".
I think that makes more sense than any response I've gotten yet. Thanks.
Barnard1425 said:\ "Marine OCS is harder but Navy OCS sucks more".
We had about a 75% attrition rate that summer
One other thing I forgot to mention is that there is no "rolling back" at USMC OCS. You have to deal with injuries or go home. I found that to be very stressful.
Did you substitute baseball bats for pugil sticks??
Clearly have little experience, but from talking to friends that seems really, really high. PLC or Bulldog?
PLC-Combined. Keep in mind that the 10 week version has more medical attrites than the two 6 week version simply because there's no "break" or other chance to heal. Overall though, I'd rather do it all at once. I'd hate to have to come back for the second 6 weeks. Once you're there, it's more palatable to just get it all done at once, providing you don't get hurt.
As far as "pushing yourself to the limit" goes, I feel that I was pushed very hard at both places. It's apples and oranges to an extent due to different training objectives. AOCS tried to make an officer out of you. Marine OCS was a ten week long try-out. They "make" all the Marine officers at TBS out of the ones who made it through the "try-out".
Coming back for seniors is an experience that haunts my dreams to this day. It was just bloody aweful coming back to that swamp that is Brown Field. I agree, 10-week is the way to go. If I had to do it again (my family would have to be held hostage or something) ... then I'd go combined. They pretty much just cram everything in jrs. and srs. into that last 6 weeks, you even repeat alot of stuff. You don't have time for much, and your body takes a fierce beating. Our attrition rate was only about 35% though.
How is the 10-week regimented differently than the 2 6-weeks? (just curious, because im a senior in college now, so i'll have to go 10 weeks after grad). You just dont have to deal w/ the first week of physicals twice?
10 week has a lot more lead in time to it. You almost spend the first 3 weeks getting aclimated to your new station in life (IE Candidate). Seniors was all the required stuff from the 10 week program minus the time for recovery. You hit the ground running at Seniors with the expectation that you should have been smart enough to remember how much things sucked at Juniors and prepaired yourself accordingly. Really the biggest difference is the PT and time between field stuff. For example 10 weekers dont run the Endurance course or CRT until about week 7. Seniors had done both twice by the end of week 2. Key thing is 10 weeks gives your body a much longer time to break down to badly to go on. Plenty of people limped across the 6 week finish line but would have been dead if they had to do the full 10 stretch. You simply run out of days you can be on sick call before they have to drop you for failure to evaluate. Keep in mind your not sleeping enough for your body to actually heal just feel a little better. Thats one of the reasons you get liberty. Its your oppertunity to do something effective with your time off, IE shop for needed stuff (moleskin, good socks, compression shorts) and to get some good sleep and good chow.
My son didn't think there were that many "games" at PLC, jr or sr. He is a really good athlete, and he found himself in the middle on the pack. Constant stress. Never failed an evolution, but never the top, either. He felt PLC was very intense, very challenging, esp srs. He felt that everyone who made it through the first few days was very well prepared physically, and from then on they just wanted to give you every opportunity to quit.
Edit: There was a guy at OCS when I went through who tore his quad, and the muscle retracted into a giant ball right underneath his hip and he gutted it out IOT to not have to come back the next summer. Pretty hard.
Edit: There was a guy at OCS when I went through who tore his quad, and the muscle retracted into a giant ball right underneath his hip and he gutted it out IOT to not have to come back the next summer. Pretty hard.