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Looking for gouge? Ask your Stupid Questions about Naval Aviation here (Part 1)

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HeyJoe

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I hope this is the correct forum to start this thread. If not, Im sure someone will let me know....
On an aircraft carrier, are the "shooters" officers or enlisted?
Just wondering.

Thanks.

We have a place (thread) for questions like this...and, shazaam. YOU are there!
 
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Blutonski816

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Okay since the search and google have failed to give me any solid answers...

I know what the Air Boss does, but what I am curious about is in regards to how the tour is run... I know it's an O-5 job but my questions are along the lines of:
When in an aviator's career does it happen (After squadron command?)
Is it (As HeyJoe likes to call it) "Equal opportunity" (like shooters) in terms of NA/NFOs and also tailhook and non-hooker types?
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How does the tour flow? Is it like a command tour where half of it is spent as mini boss and then move up, while grooming the new mini boss for your job??
 
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Blutonski816

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But wait...theres more questions!!!
Are the shooters former pilots or on a path to become pilots?

Hey, I actually know an answer!!

Shooters are usually NAs/NFOs on their "disassociated" sea tour (ie not part of a squadron/airwing), a necessary ticket that needs to be punched for advancement...

It has been mentioned before that some shooters are LDOs
 

SLAM

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Thanks Bluntonski. I know what NFO stands for, but what does NA and LDO stand for? So does that mean once the tour they are on while being shooters is over, they will then join a squadron and fly?
 

phrogpilot73

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Thanks Bluntonski. I know what NFO stands for, but what does NA and LDO stand for? So does that mean once the tour they are on while being shooters is over, they will then join a squadron and fly?
NA = Naval Aviator
LDO = Limited Duty Officer (and Officer who has worked his way up from the enlisted ranks)

Yes, once they are done with their Shooter tour - they will go back to a squadron.
 

BigIron

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Okay since the search and google have failed to give me any solid answers...

CV/CVN Air Boss: It's an O-5 to O-6 select job. It's a post-aviation command billet and either a pilot or NFO can have the job. Mostly tacair types, as they are most accustomed to operating in the carrier environment. Moreso, it's a billet that traditionally belongs to the tacair world as the Air Bosses on big deck amphibs are traditionally helo guys.
Currently it is not a fleet up job. You come to the carrier as the Air Boss, spend 18-24 mos and move on to other things. The Mini Boss is also an O-5 tacair type but is not post command. The mini job is a PA (principle assistant) billet now. It used to be the mini "fleeted up" to be the boss. No longer the case.
 

Gatordev

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So is that why the pilot salutes the shooter before launch? I know the salute most likely serves multiple purposes...pilot is good to go. But being that the shooter is an officer...would that be one of the reasons?

Besides the book answer given earlier, the salute is also part of tradition. It happens on land, as well. The Naval tradition is along the lines of saluting before departing the ship, just like you do when you walk off the ship (saluting the OOD and requesting to go ashore and then rendering honors to colors while departing). The "requesting permission to depart" is carried over to aviation, both when leaving the ship (for both jets and helos) and also on land when leaving the line.

There's a joke on here somewhere if you search about why the other services do it which is amusing, but I don't remember the details.
 

bsubdevils

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This may come across as a dumb question but I was watching the program tonight and I was just blown away by the pitching deck sequence. On one hand it looks scary...really scary. But then that crazy side of me kicks in screaming 'I can't wait to do that!'

So, my question is this. When you're coming in during seas like that, what do you watch? I would guess some instruments come in as no use so would you just listen to Paddles all the way in? I finally (after a long time of wondering btw, been interested in this since I was a kid) how they get the plane in (the flat camera) but for the pilots what's it like up there?

Overall I'm liking the program, not the absolute best, but but still worth my time. Most of the things I want to see though they probably wouldn't show - mostly flying/aviator/officer stuff like the day to day and living and....you know I'll just wait till I get there to find out.
 

e6bflyer

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This may come across as a dumb question but I was watching the program tonight and I was just blown away by the pitching deck sequence. On one hand it looks scary...really scary. But then that crazy side of me kicks in screaming 'I can't wait to do that!'

So, my question is this. When you're coming in during seas like that, what do you watch? I would guess some instruments come in as no use so would you just listen to Paddles all the way in? I finally (after a long time of wondering btw, been interested in this since I was a kid) how they get the plane in (the flat camera) but for the pilots what's it like up there?

Overall I'm liking the program, not the absolute best, but but still worth my time. Most of the things I want to see though they probably wouldn't show - mostly flying/aviator/officer stuff like the day to day and living and....you know I'll just wait till I get there to find out.

You've just jinxed yourself. You will now select P-3's.
 
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