Oh, I'll get to you in due time. Day job is a bit busy right now, and I want to be sure to provide you with the thoughtful answer you deserve.
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Navy Reserve COVID Vaccinations by October
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How many of these objectors also object to the chickenpox, MMR, and Hepatitis A vaccines?
Which is all I and some others were ever saying as well...
I can honestly say when I got those shots I had no idea they were tied to fetal stem cells via testing or otherwise. I really only learned about this as a “thing” in the last 2-3 years.
There are legitimately people in the military who also recently learned and don’t want to take them for religious reasons. There are not many, but they do exist. I know them.
I’m not here to argue whether or not the military should keep them. Like Brett and others have said, that’s up to the Navy and their risk decision matrix whether exemption juice is worth the squeeze.
But for you guys crapping all over these people or insinuating they don’t really exist is ironically coming off as a bit “holier than thou”.
I have a very difficult time resolving this: someone who can be involved in the death of humans (SEALs, some pilots, targeteers, etc.) while, at the same time, claiming religion as a basis for not wanting to get a vaccine.
Well, that’s your problem man. They don’t owe bubblehead on airwarriors an explanation.
I've got no problems.. We are on a forum debating and bullshtting... If people don't want to debate or bullsht their stance, then should they not be expressing it here, no?
I can't come here and tell everyone that I love pink socks and not expect to have to defend myself.
A pro-life stance and adherence to a ‘just war’ doctrine are not necessarily mutually exclusive. Maybe worth another thread on the differences between the two if you want vice taking this thread down a rabbit hole.
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
They do, however, owe CNP an explanation and he's not buying the load of bs.
Yes, they do. And see my post above. I’m not saying whether he should or shouldn’t. That call is not at our pay grade.
What I am calling out is people like you and bubblehead who think it’s impossible to have a religious objection to the vaccine and also be in the military.
Because I cannot rationalize how someone can claim to be religious about the COVID vaccine but not the many other vaccines, and then, at the same time, say they had no idea.
It makes no sense to me whatsoever and feels very opportunistic.I find it extremely difficult to believe that these same people blindly accepted the MMR, chickenpox, and Hep A vaccines and asked no questions.
Like I just said, I didn’t have any idea back in 2012 when I went to OCS. I wasn’t nearly as serious about my faith back then and wouldn’t have cared anyways. Now I do know and only learned about the fetal cell ties when I started having kids and doing some reading on vaccines and the faith. Is that so hard to believe or understand? I can’t speak to others, but I’m guessing it would be a similar experience.
Also like I said, I don’t personally object to the vaccine. My faith has said it is morally permissible but there are reasons to object. If someone feels like they object to the point they won’t receive the vaccine, I don’t really care. You and Spekkio seem to care, which I don’t understand.
You cannot rationalize that someone didn’t know how vaccines were developed? That’s perfectly plausible. What I can’t figure out is why you care so much about something that has no impact on you whatsoever.
Are we not discussing and debating the topic on an Internet forum like all manner of other topics? When I do not want to discuss or debate a topic, I keep it to myself.